them up on their sneering remarks about katherine cashtas. two days ago, the five permanent members of the u.n. security council and germany, the great powers, went into very serious negotiations with iran about the development of their nuclear capability. who is leading the great powers? who is leading the security council permanent members? no, it was not hillary clinton, it was katherine ashton. so let's have a little less sneering, please, and a little more seriousness. now, i was under the impression that canadians actually watched hockey on friday nights rather than debated politics. but i guess you couldn't miss the opportunity of seeing all of us at each other on the stage on the subject of europe, me an englishman, he a scotsman, he a germany and he sort of frenchman which sounds like the beginning of a bad joke, really. which is what i understand many of you think europe and its currency are at the moment. but danny and i are going to ask you to step back. and we're going to ask you to look at a more serious and a bigger picture. we