tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez.irector of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you gentlemen, but i want her to start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winni