, katherine franke. cocould you tell uss about this piece?ou wrote e it in respsponse to an article by a colleague. tell us about the arguments he articulated in his pipiece. >> thank you for having me on the show and for engaging this piece. the arguments made in the "new york times" are not new. they resonate from the late 1990's for the likes of michael tomaske, who really felt, enough already, being bothered by special interest, whether that was women, people of color, gay and lesbian people stop let's get back to what made ameririca great, whicich was liberal democracy that our founding fathers had in mind. and this attention to racism, sexism, homophobia is really a distraction and d it kind of surrendered itself to self-indulgence that is counterproductive. for my colleague to issue this kind of op-ed in "the nenew york times," at this time, it struck me as enormouslsly insensitiv both to the political situation we are in now or donald trump's election signals the invitation of a k kind of new white supremacy inin this country,y, but e