i don't think so. >> reporter: katherine harris was the republican florida secretary of state, in charge was, also, the state campaign co-chair for george w. bush. >> whether a >> what we asked her for was that she would be honest. >> and what was her response? >> thank you. >> but you walked out of there and you were like -- >> forget this. you know? >> of course, she was trying to win for george bush. that's what she was doing. but she was using her power, as secretary of state. as the state's election administration official. to try to produce that result. and that was wrong. >> my sense is she was trying to do the best job she could. she'd been thrust into this, sort of, involuntarily with a great, big role. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> there was nobody she could call up and say, so, i've got a presidential recount here. what do i do as secretary of state? >> she was very nervous. she was quite -- yeah -- and -- and my recollection is this max stepanovich was her adviser and he was a solid person. >> reporter: a well-respected tallahassee lobbyist with ties to jeb bush

you may remember in the florida recount there was administrative work, your member katherine harris was in charge of that. workusly there is a lot of that is happening at local canvassing boards and at the state system and different actors become more or less important at different stages of this. just run through quickly -- i know there is a lot of text, but i will make these available to those who request them. there is a lot of litigation already, there are over 300 cases that have been filed in this election already and they are going to set the tone for what comes afterwards. i am paying particular attention to this pennsylvania case that is now potentially on its way to the supreme court and how that might lay the groundwork for later litigation. if you're interested, we have a litigation tracker at healthy elections.org which shows all the case in -- cases. on election day, we will have lawsuits and for that matter even as the voting is occurring in the few days before -- in the weeks before. surprised if be there is litigation over polling place dysfunction or potentially violen

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katherine, do we have the tape? i would love for harry to respond to this. >> listen. don't believe these polls. first of all. second of all, the trump vote is always being undercounted. pollsters when they call a real trump voter, the trump voter's very suspicious of the deep state calling them and asking them who they're voting for and they -- it's all fake news to them. remember. >> is he on to something, harry? >> i don't think so. i mean, look, again, i'll go over the point over and orr again. when you look at the automated phone polls or the online polls, you see the same basic leads for joe biden. this doesn't mean that donald trump can't win but it simply means i do not see it in the data at this point and i'm someone who's all about data. i just can't make it anymore clearly than that. a note about trafalgar where you sort of mentioned earlier. he mentioned he got the right in the texas senate race but vastly overestimated ted cruz's margin and what we see over and over again. we'll see if he gets it right in 2020. i don't think he will based upon the mountain