katherine keneally, the racial tension aspect of those comments. guest: for a variety of these ideologies, race is an essential key to this. but it's the premises or white nationalists, whatever you want to call the key suspects is essential to this. it is important to take away here is that words matter. when high-profile individuals, trump or whoever, spread conspiratorial things or violence, hostile rhetoric directed at people of color or immigrants, it is important to know that while they may be not directly calling for violence, it does embolden certain individuals to take action against those groups. and, in a lot of ways that is often violence. the key here is noting that words matter. what type of mainstream media and other groups say, it matters and has an impact that is really important to know. host: here is a headline from abc, jumping off what the callers said. why is it that they are able to capitalize on what happened at mar-a-lago? guest: similar to was i previously noted about the shifting narrative and claims that the u.s. governm

host: so katherine keneally, your response?uest: we look at extremism, and that a separate from what i am talking about. second, i do hear you and i hear what you are saying. i am based in montana. i have a very unique background. i come from a farm town in rural montana. i understand that some of these christian families will give you the shirt off their back. i am talking about violent extremists that planned violence. that is different from political ideologies that you are discussing. host: to his point, about who can be radicalize. what are the characteristics that you find? guest: it is a common mistake about who can be radicalize. the kids who sit alone at the lodge tybalt. the indicators about who is most susceptible. what we can do is look at the systems that are in place that are increasing radicalization. like what i mentioned, the social media platforms. the type of actor spreading disinformation. host: what about the role the government has played and not disclosing information then being accused of hiding informat

joining us this morning is katherine keneally she is here to talk about domestic terrorist threats. what is your group and what sort of tracking do you do of these groups that we are talking about? guest: thank you for having me. the institute of strategic dialogue is a global organization that looks at extremist threats across the ideological spectrum. both domestic extremism to islamic radical extremism. what we do is track a variety of groups as well as a loose network of individuals affiliated with extremism. what the end goal is informing policy as identifies and threats. these threats can lead to individuals, specific trends that pose threats. or it could be threats to the election. there is a broad range, but at the end of the day, it is getting a better understanding of the threat of extremism is, how we can identify it and move on. the internet is an expensive place and most of our efforts is online. through our individual research we have researchers are in spaces such as meta-, instagram and formal social media spaces and french spaces. there are platforms such as for cha

host: joining us this morning is katherine keneally

. >> this morning on washington journal, katherine keneally from the institute for strategic dialogue talks about the increase in domestic terror threats