katherine stewart, i'll start with you.ve a host of conservative pundits this week seizing on the fact that the texas mall shooter was hispanic, to argue that he could not actually be a true neo-nazi, a true white nationalist. i mean, what is your reaction to that? and can you help us explain why there is a growing number of hispanics pushing white supremacist doctrine? >> well, that's absurd to say that he can't be a neo-nazi. he is a neo-nazi. for many folks who fall prey to this kind of ideology, it's really about identity more than race. and listen, someone like him might be dismissed as a lone actor. but he was radicalized by the type of disgraceful propaganda that has frankly become a feature of the right. some folks will similarly dismiss proud boys and patriot front folks and oath keepers as a bunch of marginal guys wearing camo and showing off their firearms. but here is the thing. this ideology that these groups are espousing is really just a low brow version, i would say, of bad identity politics that -- and far-

. >> ruth ben-ghiat, and katherine stewart. thank you very much. very informative.limit negotiations. i'll be joined by congresswoman, judy chu, and congressman, some ted lieu, right after this. ter this the us, you'll find pnc bank. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. we're proud to call these places home too. they're where we put down roots, and where together, we work to help move everyone's financial goals forward. pnc bank. with a majority of my patience with sensitivity, i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. ♪ ♪ make your dream i'm car...a reality.f mercedes-benz certified pre-owned vehicles are rigorously inspected to live up to the highest of expectations. when it comes to your hair, ingredients matter. that's why herbal essences is packed with naturally derived plant ingredients you love, and none of the stuff you don't. ou