katherine tai. i'm interested. what are your reactions to the approach? the washington foreign community, i'll go to john first. >> i appreciate, this is not an abstract question. think about 9/11, this has actually happened to our community in the past. literally, what could we have done in 1940 that would have prevented, that's how bad it is? that rhetoric, talking about the mote we shouldn't be talking about whether the chinese -- whether the chinese cheat. we should discuss whether the government is providing subsidies. that is the level of precision we need to be discussing. another thing that strikes me is whenever quite have the same issue with the russians. i'm going to name this. even in the height of the cold where, russian-americans have not faced what asian americans face. why not? number one, the perpetual foreigners syndrome. that asian americans of always look like foreigners. one in five americans suggest asian americans have dual loyalty. how do we combat that. how do we break that

trade representative katherine tai joins a discussion on ways to counter hate and discrimination against asian americans and pacific islanders. up next, vice president kamala harris delivers the commencement speech at the u.s. military academy at west point. this marketer -- marks her first visit to the academy and the first time a woman will serve as the graduation speaker. >> good morning. to the members of congress, senator jack reed, steve womack, pat ryan. >> to make it to today, i'm aware that some of you had to sneak out after tests. i will not ask for a show of hands. for those of you who did, it clearly worked. cadets, today you come to the end of what i'm sure will prove to be 47 of the most challenging and rewarding months of your life. there are so many people indeed who helped make it to this day. the families and loved ones here, thank you. for the incredible care and support you have given these leaders. i know you feel an immense sense of pride looking at our cadets. it's a pride i share and that our country shares. on behalf of our commander-in-chief president joe biden

the chinese commerce minister wang wentao is expected to meet the us trade representative katherine taicheduled to meet ms tai on the sidelines of the apec ministerial gathering scheduled for the 25th and 26th of may in detroit. the expected engagement comes after us presidentjoe biden said at the g7 summit in hiroshima this past weekend that the focus is on de—risking confrontations with china, not de—coupling. in this context, de—risking is meant to be a slightly more moderate approach to reducing reliance on trade ties with china while protecting national interests and technological advances. earlier, i spoke to frank lavin, chief executive of export now and a former us ambassador to singapore. he told me any meeting between the officials would be a good gesture. i think it is an important gesture, and a useful meeting, but businesses are all recalibrating their china exposure, in part because of the political tensions, and in part because chinese economic growth is slowing down a bit, but, look, it is still the number two market in the world, so businesses have to take china serious

ambassador katherine tai was sworn in as the 19th trade representative on march 18th, 2021. biden on the formation of americas partnership for american prosperity. ambassador tai joins us right now. thank you for being here, it's always so great to see you. can really start with china? what we see is competition, not conflict. we saw with balloon gate, if you will. it came up again this wink, obviously with the presidents travels. what exactly does that mean? can you break that down for folks at home? >> i'd love, to simone. thank you for having me, it's great to see you. let's start with our relationship with the second largest economy in the world, china. and we relate to each other as profoundly consequential, for the entire world. in this aspect, the united states under president biden's leadership has been important to the trade relationship with a deliberateness to make sure that we have thoughtful and effective strategy in addressing this incredibly important relationship. which by the way, is extremely complicated and, it seems, like getting more complex as you've no

that gina raimondo is hosting for chinese counterparts and expected to meet with representative katherine taican take place? we already know that the trade imbalance is pretty severe, that we are buying many more products from china than they are buying from us. would you be in favor, would you support removing the most favorite trade status from china? >> absolutely not. look, china is the second largest economy in the world only next to the united states and it's still using that title to gain the system and it is using influence in the pacific, using the belt and road infrastructure needs, look what they did to sri lanka, for example. they are using that special status to gain that system. we need to make sure that american dollars and technologies is not helping china to, you know, exercise their economic coercion. we see that. xi jinping and china's communist party is not interested in doing anything following the international rule of law. we need to make sure that we strip that special privilege away from them. maria: yeah. >> we cannot help them to game the system and this is the time

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