kathleen bartoloni-tuazon. kata. kata is an alumni, and having received her documentary in 20 t 10. she has been invited to speak at the university at mount vernon, the daughters of the american revolution, and just this past president's day, she was featured on the npr program "all things considered." kata applied her knowledge of forestry, working as chief of information management for the u.s. fish and wildlife services and director of the california department of fish and game and the california state lands commission. her wonderful book for fear of an elective explores the presidential title controversy. basically, what to call the president. kata's amazing research tells the story how after the establishment of the government under the constitution, congress, the press, and individuals all debated more than 30 titles for the leader of our nation. a few that did not make the cut included his elected mamajesty, and his hieigness. that would make president obama washington 44. as the name selects a successor, washington 45, to the office that george washington defined more than 2

kathleen bartoloni-tuazon. [ applause ] >> i want to say hello. thank you for coming. happy washington's birthday. >> got to get comfortable here. so you know that i love this book. i'll just show my -- >> thank you for that. >> what i really wonder about is why historians for so long have dismissed the presidential title controversy as just a curiosity, something that will be a paragraph or something in a book at best. so i'm interested in how you came to this topic. >> well, first of all, there were times when it was called by historians a big hassle or other historians wondered why the congress spent so much time on it when they could have been working on those amendments to the constitution or, you know, figuring out taxation policy. but what they didn't quite realize was how important the title controversy was to figuring out what they were going to do with this new office of the president. how i came about it, i was reading a lot about washington at the beginning of my studies, and i came across something that sa said, you know, washington's presidency was trappe

kathleen bartoloni tuazon. >> i want to say hello. thank you for coming. happy washington's birthday. >> get comfortable here. you know i love this book. >> thank you for that. >> what i really wonder about is why historians for so long have dismissed the presidential title controversy as just a curiosity, something that will be a paragraph or something in a book. i'm interested how you came to this topic. >> well, first of all, there were times when it was called by historians a big castle or other historians wondered why the congress spent so much time when they could have been working on the amendments to the constitution and taxation policy. but what they didn't quite realize is how important the title controversy was to figuring out what they were going to do with this new office of the president. how i came about it, i was reading a lot about washington beginning of my studies and i came across something that said, you know, washington's presidency was trapped in this controversial concept of the republican king. and i thought to myself, trapped, was