. >>> joining us now, kathleen bellew, teaches history, and author of "bring the war home", which is a seminal text in this field.f i appreciate you making time to be here tonight. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to ask you about my job in this and my role in this and the role of our conversation about this, because i feel likeo one of the things that i've learned from your scholarship and from the field which you've contributed so much is when you get ultra right white supremacist movements adjacent to people with real political power, yes, it may be worth looking into how they influence people with power, but the more immediate impact is that it tends to supercharge and promote and help do their work these people who are on the far, far ultra right. and i don't want to be part of that. i don't want to amplify this guy's message, but i feel like trump just put him in a new level of the stratosphere in terms of political influence. >> absolutely, and we can talk about that without saying his name or directing people to his websites or anything like that.o i think the