on thursday, kathleen englebrett who appeared on this show twice and the face of the targeting scandalestified before the house and subcommittee and took questions from ohio congressman jim jordan. >> in your first 20 years of business did the irs ever audit you. >> no, sir. once you foiled the application were you audited? >> many times. >> did the fbi ever visit you. >> once you filed the application did you get visited? >> six times. >> they want us to believe it is a coincidence. >> cleda mitchell joins me now. it is a pleasure to have you back on the show and thank you for being here to help put light on the amazing story. i want to begin with this. president obama made a statement that there is not a smidgeon of evidence indicating corruption. where i come from. smidgeon means a little bitty bit. and he said basically there is not any. is it the truth? >> no, it is not the truth. last summer he declared the irs scandal to be a phony scandal and done everything he can to divert attention from what really has been going on and it is still going on in the irs. and governor, i have t