there's no way kathleen harris saw tom and jackie hawks. >> we had to interview kathleen harris, i wantnd i were having a pretty heated argument about it. >> i told him, i said, you need to have someone else interview kathleen harris. and he goes, fine. you want to interview her? you call her in and interview her. >> this is -- come on in. >> hi, i'm keith krallman. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> i just remember trying to confront her to tell the truth. >> i'm asking for your help. >> i know. >> are you part of these peoples' disappearance? >> no. >> did you hurt these people that are missing? >> no. >> i knew she was lying. i just -- i knew it, just by her nonverbal, her body language. there's no doubt in your mind that two people signed these documents in front of you. right now. see, you're hesitating. no, baloney. this is [ bleep ] this is what i'm talking about. listen to me very well. tell me right now the truth. those people that are missing signed those documents is what you're telling me? >> yes. >> i don't believe you. you were hesitant to begin with. tell me the