. >> we're going to spend a week at darkowty in july at the clearing, and we're going to study the cloister walk by kathleen norris - >> isn't that a new book out, her new- >> she's got a new book, but it's not her book. okay. >> that's another great one. >> yeah. and it's very much in the same vein. she's not even catholic - she goes to a benedictine monastery - and her writings and her discoveries of her inner world are so incredible, just because of where she is, and the routine she has to follow as oblate. >> what was her name one more time? >> kathleen norris. >> you see, what we've come up in this class several times is you meet people, or maybe you read something they wrote, and you know that you have moved into new territory experientially - you are affected by them. and i mention that because i was reading an article on prophecy in newsweek magazine a while back, and there was just a tiny little insert, blurb from her - i guess it's her new book - that described her, what we should call interpretation of revelation and the apocalypse. everyone's concerned about this and there's all kinds of war and