kathleen sebelius on the hot seat on obama care. the latest on the developing story and why she is asking fear review of that troubled website. martha: fox news alert. speaker john boehner is expected at the podium. republicans are likely discuss the fallout on the budget deal that was just reached on capitol hill. this as well today. back in the hot seat moments from now, kathleen sebelius will testify before a house committee. there she is just walk into the room having her seat at the table. this is rounds 3 for her as she tries to explain what's going on with obamacare and the website and the paltry numbers are clear live what she'll be asked about. when welcome you this morning to a brand-new hour now of america's newsroom. good morning, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. secretary sebelius expected to announce an investigation into the website. new polling numbers show mr. obama is digging the deepest hole of his presidency. but first on the hill mike emanuel is watching the hearing. >> reporter: law makers say secre

. >> kathleen sebelius isn't providing america the truth. i warned her that her people are obstructing justice. >> one of the most powerful lawmakers and his investigation into the health care.gov debacle. four innocent people are killed at the hands of this drunk driver. >> this was one time i did ask the court for justice. >> he's given a slap on the wrist because he's deemed too rich for jail. our audience responds to the legal defense strategy that got him off the hook. "hannity" starts right here, right now. earlier today the house of representatives passed the so-called bipartisan budget deal. the bill heads to the u.s. senate where it will be expected to be voted on next week. congressman paul ryan told us that the deal was a step in the right direction. was it? before we turn things over to this wonderful studio audience wen want your thoughts on the conversation. log on to our facebook page. tell us if you think house republicans did the right thing supporting the budget deal or sound off on twitter using # hannity over the course o

kathleen sebelius, look at this picture we have of kathleen sebelius, she looks like she is about to give us a shot. the question is whether she should be on the list given the enormous troubles we have seen with healthcare.gov. the rollout of obama care has been a disaster, mark, let me start with you, both sides of the aisle agree to that. what is she doing on is that list? >> time magazine's person of the year is meant to represent somebody who is influential, so you see on that list, ted cruz, who is a symbol of our divisiveness right now, he was the first person to appear on your show, maybe he deserves to be the most influential because he made that debut. >> you made a good point. >> i love that, mark goes for the negative on ted cruz, they're polarizing figures, they want the attention on miley cyrus for twerking. kathleen sebelius, can have a global effect, she heads obama care. i may have had a little perspective on this, having been times person of the year. it is really about a person who has influence, something about the movement, like the tea party, something kathleen

how many time thes did kathleen sebelius meet with the president? they can plug it into the computer and say so in ten seconds. >> what's the reason not to do that? >> the only reason is if it was an embarrassing number. i don't know. they have to do it. the fact is the record exists. if he had dozens of one on one meetings with her in the oval office or anywhere there is a record of it in the white house. eventually at the national archives. all they have to do is look into it. >> ms. sebelius had a statement tonight saying she's been to the white house countless times since becoming secretary. she's frequently at the white house for meetings relating to obama care including dozens with the president in the last year alone. she met with him last thursday. but they don't get more specific. what do you think is going on here? they tried to tamp down the story. some other person on capitol hill said, look, i will personally attest that i have been in several meetings with ms. sebelius and the president. so we don't know who is telling the truth and wh

we've got the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius who says you know what, those insurance companies, they should allow people to get their premiums in on december 31st for coverage on january 1st. does she really believe that an insurance company is going to listen to her when she can't even get it right? >> well, unfortunately, they will probably have to. these insurance companies, i mean, they are beholden to the obama administration so even though it's completely outrageous what the administration is asking, and that is people haven't been able to sign up for their plans, because of the web page, so the obama administration is simply ordering insurance companies to extend coverage to people who have not paid yet. it's a taking under the constitution. it's pretty shocking but other than obama, the most arrogant human being whose salary you pay, american taxpayers, is kathleen sebelius. remember when the whole thing started with the website and congress called her for oversight, she announced i don't work for them. >> exactly. exactly. now of course she's tellin

kathleen sebelius is withholding serious information. she was asked october 30th to give a list of insurance company companies providing abortions so people could choose not to purchase them. she said she would give him the information and now has back-pedaled and refused to give it. the reason he asked is it's so difficult to find the average person doesn't know. tamara is about to have -- >> we want everybody to have a choice. my choice is not to pay for your abortion. >> wait a minute. whoa, whoa, listen to what she just said. >> i heard what she said about religious freedom. >> hold on. >> no, i can't help you out her here. >> what about my choice? my rights. >> can i ask a question? >> you can't. >> can i get in a question? >> no. you can't. >> this is why people don't vote for republicans anymore. >> you have a duty to your audience. you sent a letter about darryl issa. the warning letters aren't sufficient. send a subpoena. this is not a conversation about religious liberty and religion. >> why not? >> we can have that conversatio

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, back on the hot seat today. she's been testifying more than an hour now on capitol hill about obamacare. secretary sebelius has asked her department inspector general to review the work of contractors behind the health care website. she also faced some tough questions about low enrollment numbers. in one eye opening moment, secretary even admitted that if she could do it all over again, she would have scaled back the rollout. listen. >> knowing what you know today, you would have started the launch october 1? >> i would have probably done a slower launch, maybe with fewer people and ton some additional beta testing which is part of what has happened, frankly, in the early months of the launch to identify what problems we had. jon: a staff writer for "the hill" has been watching this testimony along with us. has the secretary won any converse on that congressional committee, do you think? >> well, she already has allies in the democrats on the committee but she's facing very tough questioning from republicans who

kathleen sebelius, hundreds of millions of dollars to do it with, who lied to congress saying it would be ready on october 1st, when every expert knew it could never be ready, and who said she was not concerned with faults but with fixing the problem who still hasn't fixed the problem, now, wants to know who is at fault? are you kidding? this is like the fox watching the hen house. like the court driving a stolen car. and your now key demanding, demanding to know who stole that car? or, better yet like hillary and benghazi accountability review board the one she appointed? you never questioned heshgs then exonerated her? by the way if you want to know who is at fault, how about you let congressional committee charged with oversight and government reform made up of both republicans and democrats, do their jobs. let them investigate. and how dare, how dare you tell those contractors that you now say you want investigated not to provide congress with the very records that they have subpoenaed? who do you think you are? in contrary to what you said and what you believed, you work for us am

he beat out miley cyrus, ted cruz and kathleen sebelius. tonight why pope francis is the person of the year. and is this the end of santa claus? the new push to replace the jolly old man with a white beard. >> merry christmas! >> tonight on "the kelly file." >>> breaking tonight a "the kelly file" exclusive. we are getting our first look at new warnings from physicians that obama care may end up putting your neighborhood doctor's office out of business. doctor's offices across the country are learning just what they are going to get paid or reimbursed by the feds going forward in medicare payments in particular. some physicians have gone so far as to warn patients that they may not be able to keep the practice going. dr. doug wiser is president of the national spine and pain centers, the largest private pain management center in the country. want to tell the audience i know you and of your practice because my ex-husband is one of your partners. i receive your e-mail and your particular warning after you saw what the feds are reimbursing you

kathleen sebelius is trying to spin those numbers.ere is any question that flawed launch of the web site put a damper on people's enthusiasm. having said that, we're seeing very, very positive trends. we're seeing a lot of people reengage. >> you know what? so yesterday she gave -- brian, you were talking about this. she gave the number of people who so far have selected a plan. essentially the white house is making up this metric. tell us how many people have actually paid, because those are the people who are actually covered. if you've selected a plan, you haven't paid for the plan and you are not covered yet. also she did reveal yesterday that right now the error rate -- remember before they had started, it was something like 75, 80%. now it's down to 10%. think about that. the error rate is 10%. just imagine if you're on an airplane where 10% of the time they miss the runway. this is all bad. >> that's a problem. >> here is charles krauthammer talking about how these numbers that they're floating around right now, misleading. >>

kathleen sebelius wants an investigation into the botched .gov.ut of healthcare hilton raises $2.3 billion in a record ipo for a lodging company. to our viewers here in the united states and those of you joining us from around the world, welcome. we have full coverage of the stocks have stories making headlines tonight. su keenan has late details on the hotel hilton ipo. looking at congressional leverage to pass a farm bill before the holiday recess. let's begin where yang yang has more on the budget agreement. good evening >> good evening, mark. paul ryan and saadi murray unveiled their budget deal. today was the day to sell to rank and file as they get ready to bring the bipartisan bill to the floor for a vote tomorrow. it sets federal spending at $1 trillion per year above the current level of 960 $7 billion and replaces $63 billion in sequester cuts, reduces the does not address the big-ticket items of taxes or entitlement. how did they replace the sequester? and mix of user fees and other revenues and savings and chris -- including an increase in airport security fees, a small deal th

president obama met with kathleen sebelius once in the past three and a half years.s according to government accountability institute president peter switzer. last night on "hannity" switzer says the president's treatment of sebelius has been unfair. >> the launch of obseramacare h been a disaster. to a certain extent they are leaving sebelius out there to kind of dry, hang out on her own. >> despite being left high and dry some lawmakers say sebelius needs to go. >> the advantage would be this. your viewers at home say if it happened to her it could happen to me, too. maybe we can slowly start building something harder to repair than a web site which is trust. my fear is people have given up. their expectations are so low this web site, almost $800 million. >> according to the president's calendar he met with other cabinet secretaries a total of 277 times. >>> meantime 29,000 people have enrolled for healthcare on the revamped obamacare web site that's a drop in the bucket compared to the millions who have had their plans canceled. as the deadline to sign up is gett

why didn't kathleen sebelius know when miss pryor knew and was warning against it. >> that's a critical question. we know on september 20th september 20th ms. pryor communicateed to her superiors she recommend they not sign the authority to operate agreement. she said don't launch this, it's not ready, ten days before the thing was to launch. so my miss sebelius didn't learn about that, this fact, and that ten-day time frame, anybody's guess. she needs to come back in and tell us, why didn't you know? and who are the people between miss pryor and miss sebelius who didn't communicate that. >> when your chief information officer -- or security officer says it's not safe, and you don't know, boy, i got say, congressman, someone is at fault here. my question is, do you have confidence in kathleen sebelius going furled that something like this isn't going to happen again? >> this thing is a mess. the previous clip, and everything -- what happened with the president waiving -- one of the many things he waived in the law. so it's a mess and should -- all of it should be delayed or repealed. no

kathleen sebelius appeared for on a second time since the debut of the obamare website in october. testified and came prepared. calling for an investigation of herself, her very own website. and spker boehner blasted conservative critics announc by senator muray and congressman paul ryan. joining us now is member of the houston public an leership. congressman bob good law, the chairman of the house judiciary committee. it's great he you with us, mr. chairman. >> always great to be with you in your viewers. >> and that is a president who does notdo entitlement reform, a sentiment and transcended that will not do entitlement reform. that is what the problem is here. we can't get them here without doing tax increases. and that includes the current spendg for the rest of the year and unfortunately we don't have 218 votes to do that in the house. so the chairman is put in a dificult position because these shared these concerns and therefore i think that this deserves careful consideration by the house. lou: it looks like relatively short cotton. it happens t bethat in a return to regula

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius told the house committee wednesday that over 364,000 americans are now enrolled in the federal and state health insurance exchanges, a number that several republicans on the committee questioned. >> of these 364,000 americans, do you know how many of those individuals will actually have coverage in effect on january 1, 2014? >> sir, once they pay their premium they'll have coverage in effect. >> so you don't know. these are the ones who have just selected a plan but haven't paid their first payment. >> some may have paid, some may not. we're giving you the enrollment numbers. >> joining the panel "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor dan henningier, joe rego, and washington columnist kim strassejoe, that exchange between secretary sebelius and the committee. are we getting the accurate figures? >> no. what they were talking about is the industry standard for determining when somebody has enrolled in a health care plan. they have invented their own standard to say if you have selected a plan on the exchange, that's what count

this as kathleen sebelius warns there are hundreds of things wrong with that site.zabeth prann joins us live. who is right here the president or kathleen sebelius. >> we are listening to both sides of the story. the interview took place at american university where he encouraged young people to sign up. he went on to address reports that the site is vulnerable to hacking insisting information provided is protected. >>> so my advice to everybody is, the web site is now working, go to healthcare.gov take a look for yourself in your state what is available to you. there is no reason why you shouldn't have health insurance. >> we are hearing a different story from kathleen sebelius saying they have to fix a couple houn problems saying we are not where we need to be. some krit tings are asking -- it is an attempt at the president to force his hand at a legacy. >> he is standing there alone in the wind as the whole thing obamacare collapses around him. he did not do what fdr and lbj did. they understand the majorities are temporary. he easceased on a temporary majority. a

. >> secretary of the health department kathleen sebelius in a conference call with reporters saying americans will have until december 31st to pay for their coverage beginning on january 1st. they're requiring insurers to accept payment until new year's eve. they're also encouraging insurers to also take other measures and be more flexible. like perhaps just take partial payment or also perhaps accept payments that come in after the 31st and have that coverage go back retroactively to january 1st. clearly now with the website problems working and the website itself working, they want to make sure that people who sign up by december 23rd at midnight will have coverage starting on january 1st. although in a fact sheet released, they also said if it appears that people still have trouble signing up by december 23rd, they may very well extend that deadline. they're clearly, kelly, trying to make sure that they have the

it is 100% true president obama and kathleen sebelius are responsible for the roleout and they are upalls for this debacle. congress was responsible for the oversight right from the get-go. congress should have been scrutinizing each step of the way so the obama administration towed the line and didn't inflict us with this mess it now has. don't tell me the obama administration would not cooperate with oversight and dragging its feet or readily answer the document requests. i know that's true, the obama administration has been anything but transparent. here's what congressman trey gowdy and others want to pull our hair out. congress has subpoena power and could have demanded these answers everyday without delay and busted through the disgraceful obama gamesmanship. congressional oversight is no longer oversight. it is aftersight. too late, not during when they could be fixed so americans suffer and that's rotten and that is my comment of the night. if you have an important issue you think i should address, go to gretawire.com and tell us about it. >> they say the number grew to 365,00

kathleen sebelius was back on capitol hill trying to defend obama care. she struggled to answer simple questions. for example like this one. >> knowing what you know today, you would have started the launch october 1? >> i would have probably done a smaller launch with uh fewer people and done additional beta testing which is part of what has happened frankly in the early months of the launch to identify what we had. >> oh, a simple yes would have sufficed. but that's not all. after the so-called website fix her math is fuzzy when it comes to the number of people enrolled. >> when amazon.com records a book sold they record a book sold based upon someone who has paid for it. i would ask that when you return that you give us actually who has purchased plans. do you understand our frustration with that? >> sir, as you well know we did not take over the private insurance market. people will purchase -- >> you are telling -- >> from insurance companies. >> you are telling us those who shopped are enrolled. >> i told you, sir, who has enrolled. >> that's why we

hhs secretary kathleen sebelius will of before congress about an hour from know you.h edson is at capitol hill waiting to hear it. i've got the number. 364, 682 people enrolled. doesn't sound like a big number to me, but i'll bet miss sebelius will say it's a huge improvement. what do you say? >> especially given the website problems, that's going to be the administration's spin. they say had the website not functioned or functioned properly the numbers would be higher and they say they're confident there will be a flurry of signup activity as we move forward and the response from hhs, kathleen sebelius says she'll ask her administrate general to figure out. and cmf, who signed the website. appoint a risk officer to focus on mitigating risks, stuart. stuart: and taking a rather defensive position, preempting the attacks that are probably going to come at 10:00 this morning. we'll be back to you later. the weather remains a big financial story. the bitter cold that blankets the central part of the country. below freezing across the midwest and even in texas and arizona

or kathleen sebelius not doing her job? >> if he met with her dozens of times why did he say it's going to work like amazon? he didn't know. so if he was meeting with her, she wasn't telling him the truth. but other thing is that this is what the report that has been put out by the government accountability institute shows that there are 277 meetings recorded by department of energy, secretary of interior, secretary of health -- of education. that says the attorney general. but she's not on there. why? why are her meetings not on the public record? if there are his steerus meetings why don't they tell us? look in the outer oval log and report it so we can know? if it's a good story, then, story over. yes. mark, thank you. >> thank you. >> we're seeing reports about another possible consequence of the health care overhaul. media o o outlets continue to cover you losing your plan, we're hearing you may be losing your prescription drug coverage. dr. scott gottleib, good to see you again. why is this a concern? seeing a sharp u

american people. >> kathleen sebelius isç not providing america the truth. sent to her, i warn her that her people are actually obstructing justice. they're telling individual companies who have serious reportsç on security flaws, in other words, vulnerability to hackers, to the to provide us the information. and what's amazing about it, brian, is they're saying 73 days later, don't provide information because it's aç road map to hackers. bill: that interview from earlier today. 38% of you would rather pay a fine than enroll in obamacare. of we asked you to tweet us what you think. james tweets: iç would rather y the fine. cheaper in the long run. martha: another, i will not sign up and not pay the fine. a tax is a tax, fine is a fine. that i will take to court for a constitutional violation, because as youç remember, the supreme court said it is a tax. bill: jim tweets: i just want to wake from this bad dream. martha: my insurance has tripled, i will pay the fine.ç bill: my cancellation notice for whole family plan has a $12,000 deductible, can't do it

one time with kathleen sebelius. >> that was april 21st 2010.eb master and she kept saying, i'm not really a technical person, but you would that i if the president is not a technical person and kathleen sebelius is not a technical person, you would think the three of them would meet before they launched on a regular basis in september. and she kind of let us know that when asked, when is the last time you met with the president. i don't really know. she kind of made that clear during the hearings. >> a press conference when he said he was not informed directly that the web site would not be working the way it was supposed to. remember that was post when he was trying explain why he had no responsibility here. according to the government accountability institute study, they met just one time, not alone. never a single meeting, and peter sitesser -- >> met with timothy geithner as well. >> this is actually more about the president's priorities than anything else. >> you can look at any president, george w. bush, richard nixon, ronald reagan, bill

congress demanded answers from health secretary kathleen sebelius. >> i apologise. i'm accountable to you to fix the problems. >> adding to the embarrassment as kathleen sebelius testified the website crashed again. the president issued apologise and made promises. >> we did fumble the ball on it. what i will do is make sure we get it fixed. by the end of this month we anticipate it will work the way it's supposed to. >> november 30th is the date set to have healthcare.gov funking. having hired contractors administrative officials say the website can handle 50,000 users at one time. the 6% rear rate was down to 1% on october 29th. now down to the wire the whitehouse pr campaign rolls on. >> we love you no matter what. >> that's it, health insurance. >> tweeting this, encouraging their son to sign up for coverage. in october, over 100,000 people managed to pick up health plans through the federal state-run insurance exchanges. that's a fifth the number the obama administration rejected. >> consumers who want benefits in time for the new year have until november the 2

of the doomed chopper didn't make any emergency calls before that accident. >>> hhs secretary kathleen sebelius says the obama care site has dramatically improved. in an op-ed sebelius says the site is running faster and can handle more users. the website has been plagued with problems since it launched, of course, october 1st. all right. we were just talking about your thanksgiving dinner. julie, i know you don't like to talk politics at home. but how much did you have to talk about the obama care website? now you read the op-ed from kathleen sebelius. improvement dramatic. really? >> i didn't talk about the website. i did have to talk about obama with my father who's not the biggest fan. i'm so politicked out right now i can't begin to tell you. i'm happy to talk about it here today. >> what do you think about the op-ed. it was in "usa today." it goes on and on. again we see this termage, vast majority of users it will work smoothly now. let's show it on the screen. that is mumble jumble if i've ever seen it. words that don't make sense. nada. julie? >> i went on the website today. i didn't g

kathleen sebelius comes frequently. >> all right. so he's defending the fact that these meetings took place. although two reports now say that they really didn't. >> maybe they snuck her in the back door. >> i don't know. lauren, the fact of the matter is, he said that the reporter should have privately called him. are we to assume, then, that he did not want the rest of the world to know about this? >> he just did. that's what doesn't make any sense about this. >> the cameras were on. >> everybody is going to see him saying you should have calmed e me. this is a symptom of a bigger issue which is that the white house is having a very contentious relationship right now with the press. we have seen this for a very long time. it is the most secretive white house that we've seen. and the press photographers, even put all them into it, have had a huge battle with the white house. saying you're not allowing us to cover news events. yet you're allowing pete sousa, great guy, to take these images. >> they were not always allowed that way. t

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begin with chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel and a tough day at the office for kathleen sebelius. >> he was asked about promises made, the price tag and if she has regrets. >> i've asked our inspector general dan levinson to investigate the development of healthcare.gov, including the overall management of the project and the performance and payment of our contractors. >> and it appears we're having technical difficulties. she was asked questions about the difficult rollout of the obama care website. she did her best to try to explain what they've done to correct it to speed up the process. she hailed new numbers and said there will be an investigation into what went wrong with the initial rollout of healthcare.gov. a lot of republicans were not satisfied with her answers, some democrats obviously stuck up for the secretary, bret. >> mike, the hearing went back and forth. the numbers she had, $677 million were allotted but she said only $319 million spent so far. some questions, eye browsed raised about that financing. >> definitely about that and also about the numbers in terms

. >> health secretary kathleen sebelius is calling to an internal review to the healthcare.gov site. she made the decision hours before she faced more questions about the roll out of the affordable care act. she said the website is on track. >> we are seeing positive trends, a lot of people re-engage, and it's about not only just the numbers of individuals, but at the end of the day hopefully getting the right mix, and we know a lot of younger americans are tech savvy, want a fully functioning easy to operate site. getting healthcare.gov up and running helps with the numbers. >> some republicans want kathleen sebelius to be fired over the problems that plagued the federal healthcare website. the u.s. and u.k. are scaling back on aid to rebel forces in syria. humanitarian aid will continue. they are suspending nonlethal aid, including medicine, and vehicle registration equipment. >> as the syrian civil war dragged on and the debate in washington over what to do, whether to arm. the concern was sprinting amid the rebel coalition. if arms and aid went to them, would it hand up in the wr

kathleen sebelius offers a progress report on obama care. i am bill hemmer. >> and i am allyson camerota. enrollment numbers are in. one- third of the amount of enrollees expected by now. >> knowing what you know today you would have started it on october 1st? >> i would have done a slower launch with fewer people and done additional beta testing. >> who is going to guarantee that the doctor sos that patient on january 4th is covered for that visit? are you going to? >> as they do today. you are enroll nothing a private insurance plan. >> what if the patient doesn't make the premium paymentment and they never write the check. >> then they are not covered. >> this whole idea of the president saying if you like it you can cope it. the president didn't say if you had a lousy health insurance policy that didn't cover everything, that he was suggesting that insurance companies continue to sell it and therefore you buy it. >> you cannot say as you have numerous times that it these preventative care services are "free of charge." can you? >> they a

he did not follow kathleen sebelius' advice to try it on off hours. we'll read to you a portion of what she said. for those who prefer to shop on line. you may want to visit healthcare.gov in off- peak hours when there is less traffic, morningses, evenings or woke weeks. >> it is proof positive of not ironed out. and david ph ouffe said it may not be until 2017 for obama care website to be working. maybe that is just a aggressive expectation management. moments before i came on the hour, i tried to log in to healthcare.gov. i got two clicks in the process before i hit an error message and we are now two days past the administration's self imposed do over dead line, two months since the initial launch in october and three and half years since the enactment of this law and taxpayers have spent billion on a malfunctioning website. >> at some point they will get it featured out. and then it is not a website problem. it is a problem of whether they will hit the enrollment numbers. do we have any idea how many people have been able to sewn up? >> there is a

secretary kathleen sebelius called for more investigation.hat type of investigation does she want? >> it's not likely that congress, or republicans are going to be satisfied with what kathleen sebelius has put forward today. she has asked for the health and human services department to look into how contractors were hired to get the website healthcare.gov up and running, how it was managed, the performance of the website and how they were paid. she's asking for a new position within the agency that handled the website. it's called the cms in washington, the chief risk officer, now the ig is the hhs or any other cabinet agency around town act independently from the secretary or management. they're there to be in-house watchdog, and a lot of people are going to be asking for an outside investigation. that much i is certain. >> and now they say with regards to enrollment, that they are happy. >> reporter: trying to turn the corner after the disastrous two months of healthcare.gov they say they have it fixed for the majority of people. they're a

other news we had this week, house oversight committee chairman darrell issa sent a note to kathleen sebelius saying, look we're trying to get information from the contractors who messed this up and apparently you're telling them not to give documents to us. that could be an obstruction of justice. so hhs telling contractors not to cooperate with congress. you've got them sitting on all of this data. on the excuse part, too, it's fascinating the other thing sebelius did this week is come out and say, i'm going to ask the inspector general of hhs to do an investigation into what went wrong here. as if that's in any doubt. >> all right, well, keep digging, folks. we've got to follow it since the administration doesn't want to. >>> when we come back, a closer look at conservative anger over this week's budget deal. did the gop sell out or was it the best bargain they could get? >>> the house passed a bipartisan budget bill on thursday avoiding another government shutdown fiasco but raising anger among some conservatives who think the deal is a bad bargain for republicans and the country. >> it's

and, obviously, he's not going to just necessarily trust the word of kathleen sebelius. ants to talk to the people that worked on site. and i don't think there's any excuse for trying to stop him from doing his job. jon: and, nina, not only has sebelius announced they're not going to be releasing so many facts and figures about how many people sign up, they're not even going to be telling you information that's kind of essential. i mean, if it were a private company, it would be essential, about the ages of the people who are signing up, for instance. >> that's right. the ages or even just going back to the first question you mentioned, the question of how many people have signed up. it's clearly an inflated figure. so they say something like 364,000 people have signed up, another 800,000 are eligible under the expansion of medicaid. by the way, that leaves a deficit of about four million people because you have to -- if you factor in all the people who have lost their insurance going in. but also the way they calculate the figures, that's all people who have selected a h

it's not kathleen sebelius. it's not any of the people you would think would be responsible, and there are no consequences, or if there are, i haven't seen them today. >> and down the hall, and inside the energy and commerce hearing, a congressman who is a doctor going right for the jugular. >> i'm a doc. when i see that the peel who would come to see me are having this many cuts in the programs that cover them, intuitively, common sense tells you they will have increased problem the finding a doctor, they will have higher co-pays, and fewer choices. >> small business owners are not happy. they claim obama care regulations are killing their businesses. >> it's a buzzing distraction in the back of your head all the time. how are we going to handle this. how are we going to be competitive in the workplace. but be viable at the same time. so it's just been a never ending distraction for the last year. >> and in just minutes, those business owners go on the record. plus president obama claims republicans don't have

guest guest thank you. >> we'll have live coverage on testimony of hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. she is appearing before the house energy and commerce subcommittee on health. ap is reporting that secretary sebelius is asking an investigation into the administration botched rollout of healthcare.gov. she wants the department inspector general look into the management and performance and pay issues that may have contributed to the flawed launch. that hearing set for 10:00 a.m. hearing on c-span2 a discussion on volcker rule on capitol hill yesterday, reining in risky invests by financial institutions. >> host: what is the volcker rule and why does it matter? >> guest: hi. on.ks for having me the volcker rule is really a central part of the 2010 dodd-frank financial regulation overhaul. what it does, it says that banks can't make risky trade with their own money basically and basically the idea is that banks that count on federal backstops like deposit insurance and borrowing at the fed's discoupled window and that kind of thing shouldn't be able to use their own money to make specu

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius says she asked for an independent inquiry into the website. 365,000 have signed up today through healthcare.gov. >> the u.s. is suspending nonlethal aid to rebel fighters. the state department says there's concern the american supplies had been seized by fighters not backed by the u.s. humanitarian aid to the countries continue. >> nelson mandela's casquette was returned to a military hospital. in the morning his body will be transported to the union building. thousands are expected to line up one more time to pay respects. those are the headlines. "consider this" with antonio mora is up next. see you back here is the 11 eastern, 8 pacific time and you can get the latest on aljazeera.com. >> is the glass ceiling beginning to shatter. young women are leading the way. less than 4% of fortune ceos are female. gm put a woman in the driver's seat, so what are the obstacles in the way. >> employers snoop on email and technology use. how far is too far when it comes to bosses tracking workers. >> it was a handshake seen around the world,

republicans are vowing all these questions will be front and center next week when kathleen sebelius is back in the hotseat. and harry reid is pushing back on reports that he and -- he noted when he signed up, his health costs went up $4500. they say the error rate has been coming down. they think this has been a good week. we'll see next week. >> ed, thank you. >>> ton employment rate hit a five-year low of 7%, an encouraging sign for the u.s. economy. the job creation news sent stocks soaring today, a rare sign. the dow added 199. the s&p 500 gained 20. the nasdaq finished ahead 29. for the week, the dow lost 0.4 of a percentage of a point. to break down the jobs report for us is melissa francis in new york. she's the most of "money with melissa francis" on the fox business network. the jobs number better than expected. still not robust, but pretty good? >> absolutely. it was better than expected. most economists were looking for less than 200,000 jobs, 203,000 is what came through. 7% unemployment. that is the 60th straight month we have seen employment over 7%. if you look at the

you don't need senate confirmation for white house staff. >> for hhs, for kathleen sebelius's job.department. >> yeah, i know. so we blame it on the organizational charts of the u.s. government, that won't work either. chuck todd, do they know the problem, are they fixing it? >> i think they know the problem, i don't know if they're fixing it. this is not a shake-up and it should not be seen as a shake-up. i don't know -- i think this will calm house democrats a and senate democrats down a bit. but i don't know if they are fixed their political problem. right now house and senate democrats don't understand the political pickle that these guys are in. >> it does buy us some time. but between podesta and polaro does buy some time. >> he got rid of don reagan and brought in howard baker. you have to make big changes sometimes. thank you, chuck todd. we'll be right back. >>> let me finish tonight with this. i'm about to end a 16-city book tour. i think it's the perfect gift for "hardball" folks because it reminds us that politics, smart aggressive politics not only works for the countr

how often did the president meet with kathleen sebelius?thholding it from the american people? >> why would he have met 73 times with former secretary clinton, and fwitser er igeith those happen to be on the calendar but zero times with kathleen sebelius. conspiracy theorists saying maybe this whole thing was because of if the website ends up being a debacle, if aca ends up being a debacle he can run the other direction and say -- and push the blame and push the buck on to somebody else. >> jay carney is being disingenuo disingenuous. it has nothing to do with the logbooks. the logs have to do with the president's personal calendar and when he said well, you know, we don't -- cabinet secretaries often aren't logged in the visitor logbooks. the question was on the president's personal calendar where are these meetings that apparently happened. they all should be there. this was the administration that said they were going to open up their calendars and logbooks and be transparent. >> gets to the most basic question, which is does the public

kathleen sebelius met obama once in three years.re here, they're not a cottage industry, they are an entire division of the u.s. economy. we will tell you who is paying those fast-food demonstrators, they're paid to protest and we return to the interview with zeke emanual, someone who knows what he is talking about. and another diamond right here. ♪ stuart: concerned about the security of healthcare.gov. zeke emanual did nothing to ease those security concerns on this program yesterday. >> i put my personal information on the web site when i was trying to look for information. i was very confident and comfortable. i don't want it today. stuart: question, if your identity is:because of the health care exchanges can use to? who better to ask than mark lanier, trial lawyer extraordinaire in new york city. >> you sue the federal government. you can get punitive damages against the government, can't get prejudgment interest but you have a claim against the mid your identity get sued for picking up the salary system. stuart: i did not kno

and i want to play some sound we got from kathleen sebelius. was having lunch at a restaurant around the corner and we hurried over with the camera and here is what she had to say about the pending inauguration of obamacare at mid -- midnight tonight. >> are you confident of people getting coverage? >> i'll thrilled we'll have millions of people that for the first time will have health security. it should be a great new year for families across america. >> do you anticipate any hiccups or how will you hanle that? >> i'm sure there will be some issues. people change plans every year and these are private and private markets and there are millions of people who change their insurance coverage every da day. >> so let's look back at the number one story of 2013, your thoughts. >> i marvel how pony happy kathleen sebelius is, it is so sincere how excited she is about all of this. this was, i would argue, the biggest domestic policy lie in history from a sitting president, how obamacare would be rolling out. and the source of the political problem, i

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius called for an investigation into the troubled website. >> flight 216 as yarna crashed. it's been determined that the pilot did not understand how the fully automated systems worked. >> those are the headlines. in the way. >> employers snoop on email and technology use. how far is too far when it comes to bosses tracking workers. >> it was a handshake seen around the world, what if anything does president obama's handshake with raul castro mean for u.s.-cuban relations. >> are you interested in a one-way ticket to mars? get in line. you wouldn't believe how many have lined up to spend the rest of their line on morse. >> welcome to "consider this". according to a wednesday poll women earn $0.93 on the dollar compared to males. for all women the number is 84%. there's room for women at the top of the corporate food chain. 22 women ceos running fortune 500 firms. the number did grow to 23 on tuesday when mary barra accepted the top job. >> men and women of general motors are dedicated. i believe we have the best team on the field. it's an ho

that's how many times we're told the president met one-on-one with his health' human services kathleen sebelius the health care law passed amendments according to an institute which tracked the official white house counter. we should stress here that doesn't necessarily mean that was the only time the president maybe met with kathleen sebelius. it's possible he called her on the phone and said, come over. that wouldn't pop up on the meter. pat knows having worked for jimmy carter. what do you make of it? >> even more news, the gai is saying the president met with the secretary of the navy down below, made this twice as much as she met with sebelius. had two private meetings. but more importantly, since october 1st, as far as they can determine so far, after the roleout, you know how many meetings the president has had with sebelius? about the crisis? zero. >> how do we know that? give white house cal calendar, the president cack call her up. that wouldn't be on the calendar -- >> the logs of calls are available, as well as -- >> was that part of this? >> no. this was, i think just -- but if you

what i would propose is send subpoena duces tecum to kathleen sebelius. we want the documents, we want you to bring them. she can't ignore that if she doesn't bring the documents, then we can either deal with civil contempt or criminal content. you and i both know the prosecuting attorney is not going to prosecuted kathleen sebelius that does not mean congress cannot. at some point we're going to need to reclaim our authority to provide oversight. and it doesn't depend upon a contract that she negotiated with a contractor it is constitutional. >> all right. let me go to one of those subject -- the question of the new -- the apparently one of the deadlines has now been extended. it was that you had tone roll in your healthcare insurance and pay by december 23rd. now you have to enroll in it and sign up by december 23rd. i understand that the deadline now is the end of the month. a little leeway. your thoughts about that? i am all for providing taxpayers a legitimate remedy, particularly given the fact that kathleen sebelius so botched the rollout of the we

i want to 0 in on that one point we heard about kathleen sebelius maintaining services are free, free to the consumer. the point the congressman seemed to be raising was that there has been admission by some state administrators the price has been built into the premiums. some of which are raiseed and higher than they were. >> we know nudging is free. right? we're hearing from each of them, each member of congress across the country, hearing from hundreds of our constituents who are getting they're being forced out of their plan. we've got more people told they've lost their plans they're not able to sign up for this new president health care bill. and for those that are now signed up or newly enrolled, many of them are finding their premium is skyrocketing. >> she refused to admit. that she would not admit premiums are going up. architects of the law maintain while premiums may go higher subsidies going to make it lower. >> no. the premiums goring higher for so many people and deductibles going up into thousands of dollars. people are not able to keep the health care plan they want.

the new numbers were unveiled as kathleen sebelius appeared at another congressional hearing.s from republicans. >> but you're telling us that those who shop are enrolled. >> i told you who is enrolled. >> that's why we're frustrated. >> joining me live now, nbc news senior political editor, mark murray. you've got the new numbers on enrollment but we also have new numbers on the president's approval in this poll. >> well, tamron, what's been interesting on our nbc/wall street journal poll, showing how health care has driven almost all of president obama's numbers. his disapproval ratings at 54%, highest point it's been in his presidency in overall health care goes on to explain what's going on. the numbers that came out today about enrollment are a positive story. they are still far from out of the woods on this. they haven't met earlier expectations but they are a sense of improvement. back in october, it was just about 100,000 enrolled through the federal and state exchanges combine. now it goes up to 365,000. they are expecting a big number in december. they were before th