the hill newspaper got ahold of the visit recordings and is reporting that kathleen sebelius met with the president 18 times in the year that led up to the rollout of obamacare. so what were they talking about is the question. tom bevan is executive editor of realtor policy. hi, tom. how are you doing? >> i'm doing fine. did they meet a lot, not meet a lot. hhs says, oh, yes, she goes there all the time. she has lots of meetings with white house officials but she kept claiming that the president had not been aware of these issues. how could this be the case? she met with valerie jarrett. what's going on? >> look, it seems unlikely, unless she didn't want to tell the president and kept it from him that things were going badly. she claims to have been surprised by how badly it was going. she testified she thought things were on track and things were going well. it's hard to speculate on that, martha, but it certainly seems somewhat implausible. >> we have that sound from kathleen sebelius talking about the new numbers that have just rolled out, too. i think the answer as to whether or n

and i don't think that he was pressed on that with kathleen sebelius and obamacare rollout. was is he similar to the benghazi exchange because we petered out with a nonanswer where he claimed he kept -- held people accountable but of course no one has ever been held accountable. >> speaking of which, here is the healthcare answer and hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. >> i'm sure that the intent is noble but i'm a taxpayer and i'm paying kathleen sebelius' salary and she screwed up and you are not holding her accountable. >> well, i promise you that we hold everybody up and down the line accountable. >> but she is still there. >> when we are midstream, bill, we want to make sure that our main focus is how do we make this thing work so that people are able to sign up and that's what we have done. >> charles? >> i promise you that we're going to hold everybody accountable. i think it goes in the category of a promise if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. that's a whole lot of promises. look, on sebelius, he obviously had no answer no one is held accountable ever in this

not only who, but if not kathleen sebelius, where are you going to be?arterback of the rollout. and when he talks about accountability, do you realize how general and vague he is? this was the problem, this the solution, and this is who i am holding accountable. that is what christy did with the bridge gate matter. at his core, this isn't a priority and he wanted to get through the moment there. >> he is convinced things are getting better. it will all be okay in the end and people will pat him on the back after everything works out. and that remains to be seen. let's listen to another sound byte: >> was it is your biggest mistake telling the nation if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance. >> bill, you have a long list of my mistakes. >> this is one i regret and i said i regretted. we put in a grand father clause you were supposed to be able to keep it. >> what do you think about that exchan exchange? >> i don't know what he is talking about. i don't know how it has been changed so people didn't lose their health insurance. the president c

charles krauthammer says keep the numbers street especially kathleen sebelius. >> it tells how when it needs it they produce the numbers so it can cover another story. when she said where did you get the 7 million of course she was the one who said it among others. say the truth it is easier to memorize. >> they keep changing stories on this. they can't remember what the last story was. it isn't even a real numb because this is not a person who was enrolled. they are not enrolled. amazon doesn't count as a sale stuff that's in the cart it has to be something that is actually paid for and they have no idea who paid and who hasn't because the back end of the web site isn't working. >> while you were sleeping an american airlines flight was forced to make an emergency landing. a passenger on board had a medical emergency of some kind. we don't know what kind. it happened in mid air. the plane took off from jfk bound for los angeles. it was diverted to phoenix. no word on the man's continue either. >> it is sentencing day for a man convicted of murdering lee rigby. remember this, michathey

how is that health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius says this? >> there is absolutely no evidence, and every economists will tell you this, that there is any job loss related to the chaz affordable care act. >> really? jonathan begs to differ, and jamie richardson, the vice-president of white castle who is seeing the impact on jobs first hand. john, you're an economist. kathleen sebelius just said no economy wisconsin will say that obamacare kills jobs. you're an economist. what do you say? >> i would say her statement is outrageous, and the cbo estimate is actually very modest, and the better estimates would put the job loss at twice that much. more than the equivalent of more than four million jobs will be lost. >> let me put the cbo thing aside and look at number of workers who will be forced into part-time work or actual job losses because of obamacare. forget the cbo for a second. i know that there are several major companies saying, we will hire more part-timers and fewer overall workers. as an economist, can you back me up on that one? >>

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second of all, kathleen sebelius said we should have done more background checks on these people. third, i get the notion we should give convicted felons a second shot in life. promote it. say, hey, this is what we are doing. that's not what happens. all it does is lead to more skepticism about obamacare and other spoofs that will show up down the lie. >> you mentioned kathleen sebelius. she is the head of obamacare. john, what do you think? >> look i have no problem with people who have committed a crime getting a job. why should you put them in charge of da that they can breach an use? it's the reason you do background checks on people. if a person has a problem he did in the past with money, you don't put him in charge of your company's cash register. there is no quality control. >> okay. thanks, guys. are the very people the health care law were meant for rejecting it? new numbers on the uninsured are out. the ka have you that gang warning, taxpayers may be out of luck because of it. that's at the bottom of the hour. first, forget a beer run, how about a beer drone deliveries?

let's rewind the tape back it september and hear kathleen sebelius herself. >> i think success lookse at least 7 million people signed up by the end of march 2014. >> there you g. she's using the number and what happened since then? >> she's giving the health care numbers the bad name. and to chrome dome rewind there. and cathlone sebelius apparently scared by the numbers, her numbers. she said 7 million. charles krauthammer is absolutely right. if you tell the truth and go by the 99s recollects you don't have to remember what you said. but here's the problem, if they tell the truth, the reality of obama care comes out to the american people and starting to see the affects of it and they can't talk about the technical back in and legislative nightmare that is created and more forms filled out in paper in oregon and massachusetts and have to be processed and the man hours and night mayor behind this. it was not a good bill and they are trying to put out numbers to make it sound good. get kanye west and every star in hollywood to sell it. most of the health industry has the 80- 20 rule

there is documents that showed health and human service kathleen sebelius had meetings with the presidenttimes and in many of those meetings, the health care law was on the agenda. stephen diamond is the washington times and political editor. >> hello. >> they met 18 times and kathleen sebelius said they never talked about the obama website problems, what does that tell us? >> i can't wait for the tell off memiors after the administration is over and we'll find out who was saying what, when. it was the opportunity for sebelius to inform the president. we are left with three conclusions. she anyhow and never told the president and that would be bad management and the second conclusion that she didn't know and therefore didn't tell the president. but you would think that the secretary would have done and third we are not getting the story. >> i continuing is the second. the president said he didn't know and no one told him. >> on the website, i was not informed directly that the website would not be working the way it is supposed to. >> does kathleen sebelius said she didn't know until octo

for the botched health care rollout. >> i'm a taxpayer and i'm paying kathleen sebelius's salary and she viewed up. >> when we're midstream, bill, we want to make sure that our main focus is how do wi make this thing work so that people are able to sign up and that's what we've done. >> all right. was it the biggest mistake of your presidency to tell the nation over and over if you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance? >> oh, bill, you've got a long list of my mistakes. >> no, really. >> now, o'reilly also asked the president about that deadly attack in 2012 on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. he wanted to know if defense secretary leon panetta told the president on the day of the attack if it was an act of terror. >> did he tell you it was a terror attack? >> bill, i'm answering your question. what he said to me was we've got to an attack on our compound yet. >> we don't know yet. >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand, bill, when somebody's attacking our compound, it's an act of terror, which it what it was characterized the day after the attack. the ques

>> one thing about kathleen sebelius she is an unflappable spokes person.that the website was working great and if you like your health care plan you can keep it. and her bending the truth is not anything new. but the problem for the administration it is a conflict in credibility. when they are going out and saying things like that that every american knows to be false they lose credibility on economy and budget and foreign policy. they risk to being background noise that no one listens to and they lost all credibility. >> marjorie? >> this is an economist speaking and not just kathleen sebelius. >> cbo conflicting against the hhs secretary. >> and thank you so much. we'll be talking about this one for a while. >> he talked to police, telling them catch me if you can. and they have. we first told you about this two weeks ago. zooming through traffic at speeds of 100 miles per hour. he posted helmet video on line mocking the police. but the long arm of the law caught up with him. they searched for the stolen motorcycle. and the chief of police, good day to y

he asked why kathleen sebelius, the secretary of hhs, is still in her job. >> why didn't you fire sebelius, the secretary in charge of this? >> my main priority is making sure it delivers for the american people. >> i'm sure that the intent is noble, but i'm a taxpayer and i'm paying kathleen sebelius' salary and she screwed up and you're not holding her accountable. >> i promise you we hold everybody up and down the line accountable. >> american share holders were watching their ceo last night. if you're a share holder, you satisfied with the answer? >> you're fired. kathleen sebelius, she deserved -- i think she thd have been fired immediately when healthcare.gov, which they had to have up and running on october 1st, they couldn't have waited, when they realized there were glitches in the system. that's not accountability. the problem is president obama has never run anything. he's never run a business, never been the governor of a state. all he had done had been a community organizer or a senator. has he ever fired anybody? >> interestingly, though, sebelius was a governor. he does have

this time it involves health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius herself and her claims that notion that obamacare will cost jobs is nothing but a, popular myth. fox news chief national correspondent jim angle find that is f from the case ad sebelius herself responsible. >> reporter: hhs secretary kathleen sebelius may have her own moment similar to president's obama's promise that everyone can keep their plan and "dr. no" matter what, after making this statement. >> there is absol evidce and every economist will tell you this, there is a any job loss related to the affordable care act. >> reporter: nevertheless secretary sebelius using digs correction granted by affordable care act, cut the maximum allowed by law from home health care fund, cuts officials said will be negative impact. we estimate, quote, 40% of the providers will have negative margins and company that is have negative margins don't last long or have to cut workers. >> aone who has a brain in their skull knows that they're going to have to cu jobs and reduce services in order to make up the money. >> reporter

so why is kathleen sebelius still in the job? elizabeth hasselbeck is here to answer..3 "varney and company" is about to begin. we are going to start with the stock of the week, tesla. consumer reports calls it the car of the year. no battery problems, they say. i want to look at the stock, up $10. i am hearing fed this, said that, janet yellen this and that, nobody went out and bought tesla because janet yellen mayor may not be printing money. am i right? charles: i was at the garden state mall two christmases ago, they set up shop and tesla had half a car, the engine, and the line was longer than the apple store. the enthusiasm from main street was amazing. i wish every single person in there store-bought 10 shares. was $25 a share. stuart: but is it a diaz they.com bubble? charles: it is not bubble but i will tell you the similarities between now and that bubble time, momentum. winners, people chase performance to the point where even a great company can have overvalued stock and we are not seeing that with some of these names

kathleen sebelius met with the president 18 times before the rollout last year.many of those visits on the agenda, discussing the healthcare law. the president said he wasn't aware of the problems with the website and many are won kerring why was he unhe ware. first the documents from the hill. 750 of them. tell us how they paint a picture. >> kathleen sebelius went to the house 18 times and spoke with senior staff and the president himself about obamacare and the coming rollout. it does raise the question. maybe it' not surprising she went so many times. but the concept of this website having some problems and having some kinks, it never came up. it leaves questions about why it didn't come up. why the president didn't bring it up himself. we are having a problem with this website. maybe we should delay it and make some big fixes before we launch. bill: do the document show whether the president saw the website? did he ever log on? >> it's not clear to me what he did know. we do know the president said afterward when he was asked about this that he didn't know t

however, i cannot believe that kathleen sebelius had no idea. i am not buying that for one second. >> can i just go back to dana one second. i'll get you guys in. there was a piece about three months ago where there were two reporters. i believe it was the "washington post," i can't remember their names, but they said that the advisers, president obama's advisers, were made aware that that site was nowhere near ready. why didn't the advisers tell him had. >> that was the question of what is the information flow like to the president, and is it so broken that they don't tell him or were they not told themselves or did they think the media would give him a pass on it? remember when president obama went to the white house correspondents dinner and said everything would be smooth sailing and he made the joke because you all voted for me. not so much of a joke. everybody laughed because they knew that it was true and i think the softness that the media has treated him with leading up to the website failures led to probably less than satisfying answer

there are democrats on capitol hill wouldn't-minded if kathleen sebelius lost her job. she persevered through it and the president sticking with her. has it gotten better than the disasterous rollout in the fall? yeah a, a little better. we'll see what people are talking about come november. is obamacare better? are the poll numbers better? it is continually under 50%. jon: observers noted in the past, if you lose kathleen sebelius, whether she resigns or gets fired you have another round of hearings to confirm a new hhs secretary, and that gives congressional republicans and democrats frankly an opportunity to open up the whole can of worms again. >> exactly. they don't want to go through that process. jon: bob, thanks very much for being with us. >> thanks, jon. jenna: in addition to health care the president also addressing the deadly benghazi terror attack during his interview with air very own bill o'reilly. the commander-in-chief characterizing it as not a terrorist attack that contradict as senate investigative committee the assault that killed four americans inc

this time it involves health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius herself and her claims thathe notion that obamacare will cost jobs is nothing but a, popular myth. fox news chief national correspondent jim angle find that is far from the case and sebelius herself responsible. >> reporter: hhs secretary kathleen sebelius may have her own moment similar to president's obama's promise that everyone can keep their plan and "dr. no" matter what, after making this statement. >> there is absolutely no evidence and every economist will tell you this, there is a any job loss related to the affordable care act. >> reporter: nevertheless secretary sebelius using digs correction granted by affordable care act, cut the maximum allowed by law from home health care fund, cuts officials said will be negative impact. we estimate, quote, 40% of the providers will have negative margins and company that is have negative margins don't last long or have to cut workers. >> anyone who has a brain in their skull knows that they're going to have to cut jobs and reduce services in order to make up the

. >> governor, are you one of those playing politics with people's lives that kathleen sebelius is talking about. you are a sovereign governor. >> i am a southern governor. let me kind of frame this issue, greta. we're talking about costs rising for businesses, for health insurance premiums. we are talking about individuals losing coverage. we're talking about 11 million individuals who know their interest premiums are going to go up and two thirds of small businesses know their insurance premiums are going to group. we know that people are losing jobs because of obamacare. we know that states are going to be hit with billions of dollars of new costs with medicaid expansion and other costs associated with this program. so, what's the politics about that? it's just not good pluck policy. and that's why when the vote occurred on the affordable healthcare act in congress when i was a member of congress bill rolled out and voted on and you saw all the republicans voted against it we believe now and we believed then it's unworkable and unaffordable. that he was why you see so many time delays o

republicans are slamming reports that kathleen sebelius might be soliciting donations for the healthcare. jamie: 11 miners were brought back to the surface who were trapped the for more than a day. hundred more are thought to be underground but why are they refusing to be rescued. >> we managed to give them water through a small opening that's available. bill: about 9:30 in new york. emergency cruises working to bring more miners to the surface in south africa. hundreds may be underground. many of them afraid to come to the surface afraid they will face illegal mining charges. what's happening today, paul? >> 11 miners that have come up to the surface since this drama began early this morning. but since yesterday 22 in total have emerged'. rescue authorities say there could be 300 more underneath where i'm standing here. too scared to come out because when they do emerge first they are given a great thorough medical examination. they don't complain about that. but then they are promptly arrested by police for illegal mining. the situation here with illegal mining in south africa is so ba

up next, hhs secretary kathleen sebelius ignoring a recent congressional budget was on the report on obamacare. you will not believe this, she wanted to avoid the facts i know it impossible to think it might have happened b any member of that administration, wessure you, that is what occurred, evidence here next lou: the obama administration choosing to ignore comal budget was on report, demonstrating that obbmacare will cost equivalent of 2. f 5 million jobs over the next decade. listen to health and human service secretary kathleen sebelius. >> there is no edence and every economists will tell you, ther i any jobless, related to the affordable care act, i know that a possible myth that continues to be repeated, it is not accurate. lo joining us now, senior fellow at manhattan institute. great to have you here, what do you make of a hhs secrery who said such things? >> the opposite of what she said is true, all economists agree that obamacare is reducing employment in certain areas, for example the fact that ittraises taxes by $1.2 trillion over 10 years that cuts dn on labor force

meanwhile hhs secretary kathleen sebelius is on a road trip.she is trying to convince people obamacare is not going to change t -- taint the american economy. >> absolutely no evidence. part-time physicians are down since 2010 not up. there are a number of full-time workers continues to increase. i know that is a popular myth that continues to be repeated but it is notç accurate. republicans insist it is a job killer and will have an impact on seniors some of whom are not working any more. >> the healthcare law the president made deep cuts to the successful medicare program which serves nearly 30 percent of all medicare beneficiaries. this include seniors with low incomes and patients with chronic conditions and americans in rural areas. >> despite all of the problems officials say between the state and the federal exchanges 3.3 million people have already signed up for a new health plan. >> peter doocy joining us live this morning. thank you, peter. >> in other news the u.s. reviving talks forearm me sergeant burdog. five would be released to

. >>> up next, hhs secretary, kathleen sebelius ignoring a budget office report on obamacare. you won't believe is, but she apparently, well, wanted to avoid the facts. i know, it's impossie to think it might have happened by any member of this administration. we sure you, that'swhat occurred. the evidence is here next. [ tires screech ] [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ ma announcer ] don't juscertify ourre-owned vehics. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owr. [ r alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz cerfied pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ [ female announcer ] each one of us is our own boss. ♪ and no matter where you are in life, ask your financial professional how lincoln financial can help u take charge of your future. >>> the obama administration choosing to ignore budget office report demonstrating it will cost the equivalent, as they put it, of 2.5 million jobs over the next decade. we are struggling here to understand what isqui

up next, hhs secretary kathleen sebelius ignoring a recent congressional budget was on the report onmacare. you will not believe this, she wanted to avoid the facts. i know it impossible to think it might have happened by any member of that administration, we assure you, that is what occurred, evidence here next. lou: the obama administration choosing to ignore comal budget was on report, demonstrating that obbmacare will cost equivalent of 2. f 5 million jobs over the next decade. listen to health and human service secretary kathleen sebelius. >> there is no evidence and every economists will tell you, there is any jobless, related to the affordable care act, i know that a possible myth that continues to be repeated, it is not accurate. lou: joining us now, senior fellow at manhattan institute. great to have you here, what do you make of a hhs secretary who said such things? >> the opposite of what she said is true, all economists agree that obamacare is reducing employment in certain areas, for example the fact that ittraises taxes by $1.2 trillion over 10 years that cuts down on l

this is from secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius. >> there is absolutely no evidenceand every economist will tell you there is any job loss related to the affordable care act. i know that's a popular myth that continues to be repeated, but it just is not accurate. >> bob, if that's the case, if kathleen sebelius were right, why, then, did the administration delay the employer mandate for another year, prauz presumably they were concerned about the implementation and the effects on the economy, right? >> i think a lot of us think it's the effects on the election. let's be honest. this is becoming -- every time i see another thing happen with this, i say to myself, okay, i'm back in my campaign manager role. this is what i would do. having said that, i think sebelius -- however you pronounce her name, sebelius, this was an outlier, we jump on the cbo and give it a god-like aura about it. i don't think that you would probably see many more jobs lost as a result of obamacare if you didn't have obamacare. i think people don't like their jobs. if they had a chance to do som

listeno kathleen sebelius. >> there is absolutely no evidence a every economist will tell you there isny job loss related to the affordable care act. i know it's a popular myth th continues to be reated, but it's not accurate. >> not accurate. joining us is the senior fellow at the manhattan institute and former colleagueof the ro knee campaign. what do you make of an hhs secretary that says such things? is that an explanation? >> the opposite of what s says is the truth. al economists agree obamacare is reducing employment. it raises taxes by $1.2 trillion. that cuts down on the labor force, cuts down on jobs. employer mandate cuts down on jobs. the fact people are dropping out of the work force, slows economic growth. >> i have to say, as an aside, i want to compliment the congressional office. they have reasserted their integrity and the contentious discussion. >> they perform a very important service by being a referee. i will say there are always deficiencies and inadequatd qua >> they have reasserted themselves. i watched them try to reassert th integrity and i want to give them

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kathleen sebelius. >> first of all, 7 million was not the administration.prediction. i'm not sure where they got their numbers. their number's all over the board. the vice president has looked and said, you know, it may be closer to 5 to 6. >> you know, the cbo, i don't know where they get those numbers. the same numbers that came out concluded if you passed obamacare, you were going to save money and was going to help the deficit. i don't even know where they came up with those numbers. then the president had 29 different waivers since that time. so changes in the law. now we know how horrendous the rollout was. now we hear 4 million. the president said it at least five times in the cut we saw. 4 million people have signed up. how many have gone through fulfillment and registered for the program? that's another question. now they expect us to believe that kathleen sebelius never said 7 million. good thing eric has a vcr. >> i think success looks like at least 7 million people having signed up by the end of march 2014. >> yes, that was from my vcr. >> thank

but all of the above have happened on kathleen sebelius watch. as the poor rollout continues, there is deep frustration about kathleen sebelius' performance. >> so much goes to being straightforward. what is wrong with saying we were wrong at the numbers. >> the president held up four fingers saying four million people enrolled. and we don't know how many are young people who need to be enrolled and how many are paid. if you have not paid you are not insured. >> if you have not been paying you could be booted off the program. >> yes. enrolled means you have chosen a plan. that is not much. >> we have hearing the fines are real and the irs is going to come after you >> here i am. >> we know where to find you too, man. >> at 11:00 now. >> fox news uncovering documents showing the red flags were raised on obamacare showing that security experts worried that 2/3rds of the website were rated high risk for hackers. it raises questions about the warnings that were ignored in the run-up to the launch. >>> and vulnerable democrats are not having a good ti

kathleen sebelius defying just about every news story in the past months. told no way that obamacare is going to cost jobs. >> there is absolutely no evidence and every economist will tell you this, that there is any job loss related to the affordable care act. part-time positions are actually down since 2010, not up. the number of full-time workers continues to increase so i know that that's a popular myth that continues to be repeated, but it just is not accurate. stuart: oh, now we know. that's the exact opposite of what we've been hearing here on "varney & company." these six companies, big names, all reported or told us directly they will be cutting employees due to the health care law and that's just in the last couple months. even the nonpartisan ceo disagrees with secretary sebelius and recent report found that obamacare causes a disincentive to work. and clearly secretary sebelius was trying to divert attention from obamacare's problems. the evidence from employers and analysts alike is clear, jobs will be lost, many full-timers will be shifted to

and for weeks, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius had to admit they never completely tested the system and could not tell congress how many people had signed up or how many had paid into the enrollment process. when they could report the numbers they were desperately behind their goals. and as recently as last week the president himself was quoting enrollment figures that had been discredited by major media outlets and fact-checkers. there are website security problems, problems with payments, problems with fixing the problems. and the reports of high premiums and deductibles for those who were able to sign up. just this last week the budget committee found that all signed up, will be provided insurance for roughly 16 million americans while leaving another 31 million uninsured. so for all the turmoil change and chaos, the best change of this bill, now law, is that two thirds of americans uninsured will still have no health insurance. so we decided to investigate. where does this go? what happens next? what can be fixed and what cannot? we begin tonight with michael c

and kathleen sebelius said today's announcement brings our country closer to a tobacco free nation.ut around the world smoking is as popular as effort. and the tobacco companies devote all of their promotions on third world countries. >>> thank you very much. >>> the un is demanding that the catholic church remove known child abusers. al jazeera's simon mcgregor wood has our details. >> reporter: the report is a devastating critic of the vatican's performance in dealing with child sex abuse. it says it is still not willing to deal with the sdal of the problem, or take responsibility for it. >> the [ inaudible ] has consistently placed the preservation of the reputation of the church and protection of the perpetrators above children's best interests. >> reporter:er this report lists many failings and has many recommendations. the church is still moving abusers from parish to parish. there is still a code of silence when it comes to reporting abuse. all known and suspected abusers must be removed and reported to the police. this ongoing crisis continues to playing the credibility of t

. >> hhs secretary kathleen sebelius may have her own moment similar to president obama's promise that everyone could keep their plan and their doctor no matter what, after making this statement. >> there is absolutely no evidence and every economist will tell you, there is any job loss related to the affordable care act. >> nevertheless, secretary sebelius using discretion granted by the affordable care act, cut the maximum allowed by law from home health care laws. cuts deep enough that a negative prediction of the impact saying, quote, we estimate that 40% of providers will have negative margins, and companies that have negative margins don't last long or have to cut workers. >> anyone who has a brain in their skull knows they're going to have to cut jobs and reduce services in order to make up the money. >> in fact, the cuts put in jeopardy 498,000 jobs of home health care workers who work just for that 40% affirms that will go into the red because of federal cuts. the kind of home health care workers who allow yevaughn whiteman to avoid expensive hospital or nursing home stays to

the first lady tweeted: the health and human services kathleen sebelius under the spotlight for her handing of the obamacare says: >> the tobacco i have is less than pleased, a spokesman saying distinguish we value our relationship with c.b.s. and respect their decision. >> at the lung cancer alliance the news was greeted with a cheer. >> bravo. just an exterior and powerful statement that will build on despiting momentum that we have to really rein vigorate or war. >> now that c.b.s. made their decision, what will happen next. >> walgreens says it's been thinking about doing the same thing for some time. >> it is re-evaluating the place tobacco has on its shelves. >> more encouraging news, about 19% of adults smoke, down from 40% in the 1960s. police may be closer to figuring out who stole a rare and vul uble strat stratavar. >> us violin. three were arrested and accused of using a stun gun. the strata varyius is missing. police believe the instrument? the area. >> from the most famous soccer player in the world to the most famous owner. david beckham buying a team from miami. why it may b

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius had to admit they never completely tested the system and could not tell congress how many people had signed up or how many had paid into the enrollment process. when they could report the numbers they were desperately behind their goals. and as recently as last week the president quoted the enrollment figures that had been discredited by the major media outlets and fact checkers. there were major website problems and problems with high deductibles for those who are able to sign up. then just this week a congressional budget office report found that when all is said and done obamacare will wind up providing insurance for roughly 16 million americans while leaving another 31 million uninsured. for for all the turmoil, change, and expense the best case result of this bill now law is that two thirds of americans uninsured will still have no health insurance. so we decided to investigate. where does this go? what happens next? what can be fixed and what cannot? we begin with michael canon, director of health studies, good to see you again, t

>> why didn't they fire kathleen sebelius when there was such a rocky rollout of the affordable careill talking about that now because the president has said early on, we're going to concentrate on getting it right. well, that point has passed. he said the website is working. >> and i think that's really the point. the president has not and did not today concede any real errors or problems. said things are working. why do you fire somebody like secretary sebelius if things have been resolved? >> and he pooh-poohed the big lie about you can keep your insurance if you like it, which we know is not true, and he wasn't apologetic about it. he wasn't apologetic about anything today. >> what is this president's legacy likely to be at this point? a lot can happen in three years? >> we don't know yet, but i think the history depends on if the people in the mainstream media are writing the history, it will be one thing. if real historians write it, it may be another. this president, essentially, he's gridlocked. i think he lives or dies by obamacare and the disaster going on overseas which we

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maybe he thought he was going to have kathleen sebelius publish a different rule that would go out for comment and once it followed the administrative procedures, if it fit within the language of the obamacare legislation, maybe, maybe, maybe, mr. speaker, maybe -- maybe we could give the president the benefit of the doubt. but trust, but verify. so i went back and checked the rule. the rule that had been published that compeled the religious organizations to follow the path of all of the others to provide r sterilizations and contraceptives and the president was going to make an accommodation to the religious organizations and require that these be provided for free by the insurance companies and you would think there would have been a proposal for an amendment -- a bill to amend obamacare in congress. you would think there would be a change in the rules. mr. speaker, nothing changed in the rule. there wasn't an i dotted differently or a t crossed differently, but the insurance companies began to line up behind the verbal edict of the president. that is breathtaking in scope. when you

kathleen sebelius celebrated the decision, saying that cvs has taken an unprecedented step in the retail industry. this announcement comes days after the food and drug administration announced an ad campaign aimed at smoking prevention for teens. >> don't let tobacco control you. >> starting next week, the $115 million multimedia campaign will be seen on tv in print stots and magazines like teen voc and social media. it's estimated that 90% of smokers pick up the habit before they turn 1. and the real cost campaign is aimed at kids between 12 and 17 who are not yet hooked but may be tempted. more than half a million people die each year because of smoking related illnesses. just last week, the fourth marlborough man passed away, his life taken by the lethal product he helped promote. smoking rates have fallen dramatically since the days of the marlborough man. nearly half of adults smoked in 1965, while today only 18% puff away. despite the encouraging numbers, 42 million americans can't kick the habit. their addiction makes smoking the leading cause of preventable death with $42 million

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