add kathleen sebelius to growing list of administration officials distancing themselves from obamacarerchitect jonathan gruber. sebelius who was the making first remarks since gruber came under fire saying stupidity of the american voter helped get obamacare passed. sebelius, calling gruber's remarks ludicrous. she never met with the mit economist. to she concedes he could have been seated in a room with a bunch of people, sebelius disputes any motion that gruber is the architect of obamacare. listen. >> dr. gruber i think could be regard the as the architect of romneycare but he was a consultant, one of many on the issues around how to frame the subsidies. he was not an author of the bill itself. he didn't influence the members of congress who actually wrote the legislation. and i think that, you know, he is making some headlines which is unfortunate. >> sebelius's remarks come as gruber is once again making headlines over comments he made in 2012 when he described what it would take to kill off obamacare. he said if republicans went on to win the white house that year, that they coul

so if he and kathleen sebelius working together, maybe that was a problem.ooking at the democrats coming out and being critical now, it's been four years and they've had two terrible elections in which they've had to defend obamacare in 2010 and 2014 and there was tiresome wants even though they kept it private. i've been hearing it for a while and now they've deal for you to a that we have made some mistakes and there are disagreements between liberals and democrats about the direction that it should have gone in and everyone is feeling a lot more liberated. >> i do want to ask your you your opinion of what we are saying tonight with regard to the death of eric garner in new york and i wanted to show the viewers the updated picture. protesters are now starting to move and they are on the move in durex city, trying to monitor what is going on. we have seen outrage first in ferguson and now in new york over the fact that a white police officer who could've been indicted for murder or manslaughter is not being indicted by a grand jury. what do you think that t

kathleen sebelius saying she never really met the guys. chris plante, leslie marshal, radio talk show host. she never met him, although we have this thing at fox called the brain room and all the times i'm holding up a piece of paper she talked about him and met with him, so who's telling the truth? >> well, the truth, dishonesty is the new honesty in washington. nancy pelosi never met him, videotape showed her being in the same room. with friends like these guys who needs strangers. there are no consequences for lying, lie, change your story tomorrow, no consequences. >> why wouldn't kathleen sebelius say he was the architect of obama care, we hired him because he was a money guy who was from m.i.t. and we trusted his advice on obama care? she's not even the secretary anymore. why wouldn't she just tell the truth? >> gretchen, honestly i was feeling this as well. i mean we get into is see man ticks with the situation, but they wanted the affordable care act on a federal level to be similar to what was done in massachusetts. gruber was the

apparently, kathleen sebelius is taking a play from the playbook of professor gruber. this law isn't unpop blawrs it was named after the president. it is unpopular because it doesn't work. it is unpopular because it doesn't deliver what the president promised the american people it woovmen would. so democrats can rename this health care system whatever they want and people all across the country are still going to know that the law is failing them. people have been hit by higher costs, higher co-pays, higher premiums, higher deductibles, many of them can't continue to see the doctor that treated them in the past. so no matter what the democrats and kathleen sebelius want to call it the law remains very unpopular because it is unworkable and it's unaford baling. -- and it's unaffordable. so, madam president, as we head into the militar middle of dece, next wee week, december 15, is e deadline for people to sign up on healthcare.gov. that's for people living in the 37 states that use the federal health care exchange. a lot of people still haven't signed up, and they may

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. but first is security at u.s. diplomatic posts any better now than before the benghazi terror attack? that was the topic today at the second benghazi select committee hearing. >> facts haven't changed. the evidence hasn't changed. but the way our government characterizes benghazi has changed a lot. >> we all take this assignment very seriously. >> fire, violence, terror, the weaponry of war. >> today we are safer and more secure. >> one bad actor with the right position and access can seriously endanger the safety and security of personnel overseas. >> i do not think we should move on. >> and ben gau ze select committee chair joins us. nice to see you >> yes, ma'am. >> apparently because of the release of this memo, this torture memo or whatever you want to call it, we put our overseas fa sill tis on high alert. steve linnick the top watchdog for the united states said u.s. posts remain at increased security risks at diplomatic posts. in your work as chairman of the benghazi committee, are things safer? >> since b

not the law itself, says kathleen sebelius.n, has a very bad brand and i think we may need to call it something in the future different. >> okay. rand paul has an idea for a new name. >> the president is sort of a brand, but he's a bad brand, but it's his baby. he came up with this concept. when we found out we couldn't choose our doctor, public opinion really turned against obamacare. >> with a would you call it now? >> the lack of choice care. >> the lack of choice care. that's what he calls it. and those are your headlines. boy, that's something else. >> we were asking what would you rename obamacare? sunshine tweets in, i know, call it unaffordable bait and switch care. >> jeff writes, how about gruber care? he designed it. >> and caught on tape saying he helped write it. and linda says, doesn't matter what they call it. it's still going to snell the same. thanks to everyone who responded and decided to -- >> since kathleen sebelius was involved, why don't we call it kathy care? >> or because it's snowing in some places, sn

kathleen sebelius now says she doesn't even know gruber.g luzader has the latest. >> jonathan gruber is just a gift that keeps on giving. he offers tactical advice for obamacare owners. opponents can in his word kill it from the inside. >> you don't need active repeal. you just need ignoring the law and letting it whither on the vine that's enough. that's the real threat. that's the major threat. i think the law faces. >> while he is referred to by architect of obamacare they have been trying to down-play his role. that's what we heard from former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. >> is he somebody you met with a lot? >> i did not. i know our staff did. i think he met with various advisors but i did not meet with jonathan gruber? >> ever? >> he maybe was in a large room. he could have been on a phone call but in terms of small meetings discussing policy, that never happened. >> gruber will be on capitol hill next week to testify before congress. >> doug luzader. thank you. >> before you head to the airport make sure tha

now kathleen sebelius is talking about the americans. >> a lot of people don't know what insurance is all about and if they have coverage, what it means, what a deductible is, what a copay is. how to choose the network. those are complicated terms. i think the financial literacy, particularly people who did not have insurance coverage or whose employers choose their conch and present it to them is very low. >> some say it's not our literacy.

you know, kathleen sebelius and leader pelosi act like they don't know him. so i'd start grilling him on how well do you know them? do they say hi, jonathan. >> $400,000 for his role in constructing this program. i'm a little upset he and kathleen sebelius didn't have more meeting time actually. >> it's incredible, isn't it? >> i can't wait. >> if this were up against the packer game tonight, this would be a really tough call for me. a really tough call. you know, maybe he'll do a great job. i just can't imagine how with those videos. >> whatever he says ends up landing either the program or himself in more trouble. >> he's going to be a humble guy. he's not going to be the guy you saw. >> how do you humble yourself out of that? i didn't mean they were stupid, they're just not as smart as i am? >> you say yes, sir, no, sir, and thank you for the question. >> i wouldn't show up. who advised him to do that? anyway, panel, thank you. we'll all be watching tomorrow. >>> a private jet crashes into a house in a washington, d.c., suburb. six people confirmed dead. f

. >> and 10 days later, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius calls it quits. >> kathleen sebelius my health and human services told me she would be moving on. >> june 30th the supreme court makes its hobby lobby decision allowing some companies to refuse coverage for contra contraceptives. september 4th the administration announces that healthcare.gov hit with a major cycler attack. september 18th, some good news for the law. >> we have 7.3 million americans enrolled in the health insurance marketplace coverage and these are individuals who have paid their premiums. >> november 7th, the supreme court accepts a major challenge to the law a case that could determine the fate of the entire affordable care act. november 10th, this video goes viral. >> lack of transparency a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever but basically that was really really critical to getting this thing to pats. >> jonathan gruber the so-called architect of obamacare caught on camera again and again. >> the americans are too stupid to

now kathleen sebelius is talking about the americans. >> a lot of people don't know what insurance is all about and if they have coverage, what it means, what a deductible is, what a copay is. how to choose the network. those are complicated terms. i think the financial literacy, particularly people who did not have insurance coverage or whose employers choose their conch and present it to them is very low. >> some say it's not our literacy. it's the law's lunacy. who is right? welcome to forbes on fox. let's go in focus to find out with steve forbes. "the soft edge" just picked as one of the top business books of the year. are we the problem, john, or is it the law? >> sebelius is 100% incorrect. if markets are smart, then the lecter rate come prices all known information. and the lect electorate is very once the law was rolled out, voters rebuked the democrats once again in 2014. voters like the markets ultimately reflect the truth and they're well awir of the damage that the politicians did. >> make, what do you think? >> i think sebelius has a good point. for instance, i think mos

kathleen sebelius healthercare.gov was like buying an airline ticket using your fax machine.g a scapegoat for its failures? >> no. i think that i was a ceo of a big company with an important roll out and healthercare.gov was something that had been promised to work smoothly. >> now that tony blair's holiday card. it's getting mocked. see the reason. what is he doing with his mouth? cue the twitterverse with that one. one person said the strange thing about tony blair's christmas card is how the teeth seem to follow you around the room. another blair's christmas card the emoji edition. that's your morning edition of scrambled politics. hopefully bill franken would have done a more generous smile. let's start with the big news overnight, the protests over the fwrj's failure to indict a police officer in thorric garner death. critics are now looking at this, $75 million that the white house wants to use for police body cameras across the country, arguing now what goodwill it do. could that be a blow to the president's push? >> well, there are some questions that need to be asked

what i heard from kathleen sebelius the other day, chev said american people are stupid, echoing gruber's remarks but don't know him, even though her department and the federal government paid him $400,000. the fact is, what is not complicated here, neil, is that many americans right now are paying way more than they were for their insurance premiums, their copays, their deductibles because of this law and that's not complicate for average people to figure out. they need to do their jobs and maybe implement some common sense and when we tell them to do their jobs, they should actually do it. no one wanted this shoved down their throats throats and now my christmas, obamacare is the gift that keeps on giving. >> other parties practiced this. the banking rescues under president bush, fine some descent man, as i'm sure president obama is. fine and decent man. the argument for the bailouts, trust us, if we didn't do it that -- there would be hell to pay. president bush's people said, tell cavuto to shut up. my point was then and is now, that when it's thrown back in our faces, they argued it

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius suddenly seems to know how to fix obama care. >> obama care, nouestion, has a very bad brand that has been driven intentionally by a lot of misinformation and a lot of paid advertising. and i think we may need to call it something in the future different. >> really? just change the name? our political panel is back. john, a new name? >> i just think it's delusional. right now you're finally seeing some thawing among democrats like chuck schumer who are saying it's a bigger problem than this, a problem that doesn't help the middle class. if you think it can be fixed by changing the name name it after somebody popular, taylor swift or aaron rodgers. but it's what obama care does. it's what it is, the reality of it. by two to one people say the law has hurt them rather than helped them from the new fox poll. people losing their plans, paying more. losing their doctors. >> i think she means the misinformation about the past bill. but the misinformation that passed the bill. if you liston jonathan gruber lack of transparency. nobody knew knew it or rea

bill: kathleen sebelius turning her back on the architect of obamacare.he is knocking count importance of jonathon gruber. sebelius telling "usa today" that he was barely involved in designing the law. >> i think he meth met with various advisers but i did not meet with jonathon gruber. maybe he was in a large room. he could have been on a phone call. but in terms of discussing policies, that never happened. bill: lawmakers want to know about his comments on video that obamacare was passed by deception and the law only passed because of the stupidity of the american people. that will be one whale of a hearing. 9:00 a.m. eastern time next tuesday morning when gruber is forced to answer. a lot of things he has said have gone viral. >> it's not that relevant whether he and kathleen sebelius have had conversations. what's relevant is if the things he said about tricking the american people into it turn out to be representative of the underlying program itself and hoodwinking the american people was part of how it got passioned in the first place. that will be

according to former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, everything. obamacare has a bad brand that has been driven by a lot of paid advertising and i think may need to call itti something in the future different. >> sebelius resigned in april following the botched rollouts in obamacare frm her statement coming as a brand new fox news poll shows a record 58 percent of voters want to repeal the law. that is up five points from last year. >> two major storms hitting both coasts. dozens of schools already closed as hurricane force winds and heavy rains are expected to cause flooding and rain slides. 20 inches of snow falling in new york. one interstate shut down for more than 7 hours. you are back. i know united been off skiing. welcome back. >> that's right. wept out skiing in colorado where the weather is beautiful. across the east coast and quest coast we have storm systems impacting both of the areas. across the northeast we have snow coming down across portions of pennsylvania and also across parts of person new york. you mentioned 20 inches of snow

and things got more heated when i respond to secretary kathleen sebelius, having the nerve to call intoelligence because we are questioning a health care law and not appreciating the wonder and beauty of the health care. we have all developed rules for those that champion big government causes in here were some of them. rule number four is health care is about covering you, not leaving you with a bill that is going to sicken you. rule number five is if you have to lie to sell what you're selling is a lie. and okay, this one, cover your ears just because doctors can look up your but doesn't mean politicians should blow smoke up your butt. that doesn't cut it for a lot of you. and what can i say? there is a another e-mail that says you start with this. and then there is another who says, watched the show last night and you are fired up and what has gotten into you and nothing gets me more fired up than one they lie to us. and barbara is a rockstar, a silver tongued rockstar. and then there is sandy because i love your passion, you should run for congress because we need your truth and com

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius says jonathan gruber wasn't plugged in enough to know. >> maybe he was in a large room, he could have been in on a phone call, but in terms of small meetings discussing policy, that never happened. >> reporter: white house officials continue to spotlight the number of people newly insured under the affordable care act, asked if they were worth the political cost. josh ernest said without a doubt. though clearly some democratic lawmakers do have doubt. >> wendell goler, live on the north lawn, for it's hard to believe for the last time. wendell starts a well deserved retirement tomorrow. wendell, good luck to you, we will miss you greatly. make sure you tune in to the end of the show for a special goodbye for wen daal. why some of the people who were at benghazi were upset got the latest report on the terrorist attacks. >>> we now know when the house select committee on benghazi will now hold it's next public hearing, next wednesday, a week from today. this comes as we're getting more reaction from the house intelligence report from those who witne

perception is everything in politics and right now, you have democrats like nancy pelosi, and kathleen sebelius, former health and human services secretary running far away from gruber and the administrations don't want to seat representatives at him at the hearing. there is damage to the guy who put together much. foundation of obama care, isn't it? >> true. i don't know if they will do more damage than he has done himself on the tapes. he said in an interview, anything i would say is going to fuel the haters. i think he will be careful when it comes to the hearing and i am saying when it comes to oversight committee hearings, i think a lot of people will reiterate the things they said in public. and you will so a lot of republicans angry about what he said and trying to tease out more proof that the the administration lied to the american people putting together obama care. cummings said he will use the hearing to talk about the good things that obama care is doing for people. i think it will be a partisan hearing and we'll have to see what gruber said. >> and the supreme court has yet to iss

lou: 84 being with us for a former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius knows how to fix obamacare. >> obamacare no question has a very bad for a and driven intentionally by misinformation and paid advertising. and day they need to call it different in the future but it is working. lou: we have heard that before. outgoing senate majority leader blamed obamacare for the democrats midterm losses. he said called mac we never recovered from the obamacare pullout. the secretary did not mention that. odd. up next president of obama has an example of what he calls deeply rooted racism in america and did not stop there. next. here's a question for you: when electricity is generated with natural gas instead of today's most used source, how much are co2 emissions reduced? up to 30%? 45%? 60%? the answer is... up to 60% less. and that's a big reason why the u.s. is a world leader in reducing co2 emissions. take the energy quiz -- round 2. energy lives here. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended freque

lou: 84 being with us for a former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius knows how to fix obamacare. >> obamacare no question has a very bad for a and driven intentionally by misinformation and paid advertising. and day they need to call it different in the future but it is working. lou: we have heard that before. outgoing senate majority leader blamed obamacare for the democrats midterm losses. he said called mac we never recovered from the obamacare pullout. the secretary did not mention that. odd. up next president of obama has an example of what he calls deeply rooted racism in america and did not stop there. next. going on, ryan's daydreaming and inability to focus. it was just frustrating to get my mom to understand what i was going through. so that's when we talked to a doctor and she wasdiagnosed with adhd. it just explained so many things for us. hyperactivity isn't the only symptom of adhd, inattentive symptoms like ryan's, can be less noticeable, learn more. get the adhd symptom checklist at keepmomming.com then talk with your daughter's doctor. lou: a few comments of president obama w

but according to kathleen sebelius, it's jonathan who? have been in a large room qualification is suggestive of the administration but plays to the broader angle that they are trying to distance themselves from him. they are playing him down even though not only his consulting fee but state consulting fees for the health care law represent that he played a bigger role than perhaps he's being made out to play. again, i think the administration's difficulty is that, you know, the more they run away from him, the more incentive that provides republicans to pick out forensic pieces of information. more will come out, more speech also probably come out and at the political level it discredits the president's ability on the law and it's still going to be a controversial issue. >> i only have 20 seconds. is he actually going to show up to testify next week? >> i think he is and it's going to be gruber's revenge against the democrats. >> it's going to be standing room only. i mean, i honestly can't imagine he's going to show up but maybe he will.

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kathleen sebelius showed us how to do that. >> it is the phlegm twins and new phlegm triplets. >> thatp. >> yes. >> because we are reinacting the scenes of the titanic. >> so keep tweeting us, which scenes you want to us do from the movie titanic. we have more in store. >> i will tell you this, racing to the top is the car scene. >> that is what i a said. >> i don't know, you guys should go recreate it in the news van. >> fog it all up. >> it is so filthy. >> old food. >> yeah. >> that is now, is what your kids name avery. >> in the news van. >> good day to you, friday, december 19th, yeah, 17 years ago today that big movie titanic came out. >> yes. >> so are you heading to the move thinks weekend. we all want to know one movie we won't be able to see, tonight, you know, the interview. it got canceled by sony. i want a review of it. hobbit is out and annie with a black cast is out this weekend. >> with jamie fox in it. >> it looks pretty darn good. >> here we are, our movie critic will review these three move is. >> plus people magazine named its sexiest woman alive and we know beyonce

yet just days before cuccinelli anoinsed the settlements, kathleen sebelius also made an announcement. she rowvealed that this administration did not -- she revealed that this administration did not intend to treat obamacare as a federal health care program exempting it from anti-kickback laws. precisely because of the fraud opportunities under obamacare. one provision that congress added to the law made a violation of anti-kickback law an automatic violation of the false claims act. this administration has chosen to ignore that part of obamacare. congress must step forward and reiterate that obamacare is no less subject to the anti-kickback law and false claims act than other federal health care programs. congress should strongly consider strengthening the false claims act's connection with suspension and debarment. that would keep repeat offenders away from the taxpayer dollars that they've defrauded in the first place. this issue then is really one about law and order. if we really want to improve the false claims act -- not go the direction of the u.s. chamber of commerce -- we sh