joining me now is kathleen sibelius, former health and human services secretary, former democratic governor of kansas and the president and ceo of resources. kathleen, good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you, ali. >> i have in my hand here a 68-page remarkably detailed report that was prepared some time ago by the cdc. it has details on schools. it has details on faith communities, on restaurants, on child care, really, really specific detail that a whole lot of americans could have benefitted from seeing some time ago. this was shelved by the white house. this was tabled. they kept saying they're reviewing it. they wouldn't put it out there. it took reporting to get it out there. what's the point of not putting this information out there, good detailed information done by people who actually do this for a living. >> well, i don't know what the -- well, i think the point of holding it is that the white house must have felt that it would be discouraging or limiting to what they want to do, which is push people out into an economy. i find it very troubling because