and a lot of women that i spoke to -- >> kathleen turner. >> kathleen turner, fabulous. i mean, she, obviously, you guy know are. some of the scenes this she has done and the way that she looked . and she just gave up. it seriously. i thought to myself, no, i really don't. she is like, well, i don't. >> she would interview these people and say, kathleen turner it was like a confession. >> crying on the phone. >> being on the air and having to fit into these dresses. god, you have a bad life. i thought, that is really, just really -- i should be so proud of our i am at. honestly, my friend, diane, she coming and talking to me and working on the concept of the book is like, you really need t talk to someone. you really do. and i was so skeptical at first. >> you brought up suzie asman. i thought this was so amazing seeing mika brzezinski write this book, seeing a change your attitude toward food and weight change. of all the women she spoke with the one that she just really wa was suzie asman. but she was blown away. it is really of the. and she is really comfortable with