. >> kathleen turner, the actress. >> people from the arts, people from the politics. people from the clergy. a wide range and wonderful group of people. >> how effective do you think you've been? >> i would say them, not me. they do the work. i'm on the board. i should be -- i wish i was a little more active. i would like to take credit for all their work. i think at times they've been terrificically effective. at times, less so. i think the existence of the people for the american way is wonderful, important, maybe even profound. so i think very important, not necessarily effective every day, but over the long term, very effective. >> let's play this -- there are people watching saying with hear it on the air all the time that the media is controlled by left wingers. who have an agenda who are doum dumbing down the society by bringing more and more violence to television, more language to television, more sex to television. what do you say to them? if your worst critic was in front of them, then you add to that, we have this thing called the first amendment. >> yeah.