(kathryn bigelow) he's a on a downward spiral from which he cannot emerge.nd the more he tries to eradicate the situation, the worse it gets. (man) vera, don't call the cops, listen, i'll break the phone. (jean-pierre gorin) there is a complete wackiness in a film like "detour." there's the wackiness of getting a murder scene with a phone cord and someone yanking the stuff and on that level it's part three stooges, part marx brothers, part completely surrealistic. it's sloppy, it's smelly. it's disreputable. what's nice about film noir, it's disreputable filmmaking. the last scene in "detour," didn't have a seal of approval. it was all made. (martin goldsmith) there is somebody who actually killed somebody and what is he doing? he's hitchhiking around. (man's thoughts) someday a car will pick me up that i never thumbed. (martin goldsmith) so i put in just a few lines. (man's thoughts) yes, fate, or some mysterious force, can put the finger on you or me for no good reason at all. i think noir hit people so hard it's because essentially at the core of it all t

was kathryn bigelow tonight. i haven't been following the , but when it comes to torture i trust someone married to james cameron. i just saw, what was the name of the movie? i just saw gravity. george clooney would rather float into space than spend five more minutes with a woman his own age. he is a lot of fun, that one. >> the gift of being able to be funny. did you have that, or did you learn that? >> thank you. when you say that i don't even know -- it feels funny to but i foundhat, myself liking to perform at an early age. doinge in the book i was a performance of "the wizard of was in fourth grade, but emotionally probably four. i got a laugh. i remember this feeling of intoy liking it, leaning it, and wanting it again and again. i think i had to learn how to be a better performer. >> you learn timing. >> you learn how to work with other people, to go against -- our first natural instincts are not always great. you have to sift through the first layer. you go through your instinct. it's not always great. l

>> it was kathryn bigelow here tonight. i haven't been following the controversy about zero dark 30 but when it comes to torture, i believe that's what it is being married to james cameron. >> rose: yes. and the clooney -- >> the clooney joke was what was the name of the movie. gravity. i just saw gravity. george clooney would rather float off into space than spend five more minutes with a woman his own age. he's a lot of fun that one. >> rose: the gift of being able to be funny. i mean, did you have that or did you learn that? >> well, thank you. when you say that i don't even really know. it feels funny to respond to that. but i found myself liking to perform at an early age. i write in the book that i was doing a performance of the wizard of oz when i was fourth grade. fourth grade, yes. and but mentally probably four, emotionally probably four. >> rose: and you loved it. >> and i got a laugh and i remember this feeling of getting one, really liking it, leaning into it. and wanting to get it again. but i think i had to l