kathy barnette trailing by about 12 points down there at the bottom.s the vote still to be tabulated? i can tell you, sean, if you are to look at the state of pennsylvania, i will show you in a moment, you can draw a t and find out where the republican voters vote and where the democrats vote in just a moment. however, this is pittsburgh, allegheny county, the hometown of david mccormick, well, okay, there it is. it is the second-largest of 67 counties. that gives you an idea of how many votes there are in allegheny county, in the city of pittsburgh, and about -- it is still early in that part of the state. down in the southeast, this greene county right here, that is the county and the city of philadelphia. there are a ton of votes here that have yet to be counted. number one populated county in the entire state out of 67. i was mentioning where you find votes in the state of pennsylvania. this is what pennsylvania did less than two years ago. joe biden, the official winner over donald trump by about 80,000 -- about 82,000 votes, in 2020, if you were

anyway, kathy barnett is running for the u.s.hat has to be described as a purple state, not an easy won for a republican. in a general election, the media mob will rip her apart over all of these issues, all of these comments, all of these tweets. if she is unable to clear up these issues right now before the primary, it is my prediction, and i don't because a tough one to make, she will be utterly destroyed in a general election like she was in 2020. kathy barnett will never be able to win the general election against the radical left. she has many things in her past which have not been properly explained or vetted. here with reaction, are two other candidates in the pennsylvania republican senate primary, jeff bartus. do you agree with my assessment now that we had a chance just in the last 36 hours? nobody paid attention to kathy. nobody paid attention to her past. do you agree that her chances are zero? >> sean kromah we need this seat. sean, you know i am a senate confirmed u.s. ambassador to denmark, green then come on the

she's at kathy barnett's campaign headquarters. look like they were doing a lot of dancing in the background earlier when we were there. what's the feeling there?wh kathy barnett's headquarters. sean, it has settled ever soed slightly. i was just a couple of minutes t ago as the crowdhe and the t candidate they were dancingci in the macarena colion i justng i think still veryni lively here in elizabethtown, pennsylvania. but it really was a testament to the momentum that barnett has gained in just a few short weeks. it was really stille just a two person two man race as of a month ago and then the last couple ofee weeks her momentum has really picked up. but we that , of course claim that criticism not only over some past statements she had mader but over the potentil she would have in battling out against john fetterman in the general. it's interesting kathy barnettti made the statement that she feels she'd be best equipped to letterman against and cited a 2013 incident when letterman took an unarmed black man for a shooting suspe

kathy barnette joins us now. cathy kipp good to see you.n with that -- on with us last week. to talk about your mom and your own story of life. but what do you attribute your late surge in this? >> kathy: , and that we just offered this one point correction. my husband is watching right now. i am not a single mother. we have been married for over 20 years. so i love you, babe. laura. you know, we have simply ran a much better rate than my opponent. and we ran a much better race because we have always kept the main think that the main thing and that is the people of pennsylvania instead of doing slick commercial ads and having posters tell me, you know, whether i use a fork or a spoon and what buzzwords i should say, we simply walk out of our front door and i earnestly believe that if the people of pennsylvania knew they had a better option, they would take it. and the polls are showing just that. they now know, you know, contrary to many in the media turf who have made this about two particular people, they not know that they have a better

this is an example of the deep estate turning against kathy barnett.ns and conservatives, we need a black woman like kathy burnett rep resenting us, speaking for us, she does speak for america. i think we are making a huge mistake by slandering her. >> laura: the pile on is something to see, here is dr. oz responding to this heat that he has got. >> money groups have now come into pennsylvania with outside money and they are wrongly supporting kathy barnett and putting her in contention, when you're an outsider, the establishment coming after it with everything they've got to come i've been able to stand on my own 2 feet very proudly and live up to the promise of my campaign. >> laura: your reaction, he's a very well-known person, he has enormous amount of celebrity and star power. because he is an outsider, she is an outsider, it's hard to follow that. >> it's hard to follow what you have a woman who started a campaign with three individuals going out campaigning and talking to people directly -- all of a sudden she is in a statistical tie with someon

we see with kathy barnett and pennsylvania. certain part of the establishment, again, trump putting up don't these are not electable candidates. do not pass code, don't do it. they can't really get to their own base on this. with cawthorn, it seems like it's been a little bit more affective. how do you think about that? >> chris, i guess the good news is that, republican leaders and republican primary voters have finally found someone who is unacceptable. for a few years now, we've gotten the message from republican primary voters and a lot of that leadership that it's okay to lie. it's a case to spread conspiracy theories. it's okay to use speech that promotes violence. but, i guess if you do wear lingerie, and if you do accuse your colleagues of partaking in orgies and consuming illicit drugs, then that finally, get you kicked. out i think michael's point is important. republican leaders, we should try to take the positive here tonight. republican leaders should realize that, it is possible to stand up against people who beha

who's leading in montgomery county, it's kathy barnette. kathy barnette lives in montgomery county. has 33% of the vote there, then there is mehmet oz at 27%, and then there is mccormick. when you talk about a race of just a few thousand votes, that's what we're talking about. kathy barnette's potential impact here on this race. where at polling locations here today, stephanie, a great number of voters said they were heavily considering her, of course not enough ultimately voted for it to give you the win. she may have changed the outcome in this race, if mehmet oz is not able to take the lead here. so she took a big bite out of oz her advisor, happy to talk about that with you to talk about that with you. how about his advisors? has his campaign said anything to you tonight? >> yeah just in the last ten minutes they said they feel good about the direction this is heading in. while noting it is, tightening. and i think steve is better at cracking down the numbers. i gotta be frank with you stephanie, you know you have these conversations. campaigns are usually hedging their bets on

that is where kathy burnett comes from. so, it shouldn't be surprising that someone, like her, an election denier, with hard right views on abortion, and a number of other issues, is surging in the polls in the republican primary for senate in pennsylvania. but, republican leaders are freaking out about the possibility that she may win, because, they seem to recognize this undiluted manifestation of the republican in could be a very, very, bad election candidate. this is how weird it is getting. fox news hosts, spending this week, going after kathy barnett for being too anti muslim. for calling barack obama a muslim. so, get this, republican primary voters, if you love donald complete and total shutdown on muslims entering the united states, and whereas obama's birth certificate, trump, and you want to help his party, do not vote for kathy burnett, because she is to anti-muslim. by the way, they're having a similar freak out about the front runner for the republican nomination for governor in pennsylvania. a republican stat

it is kathy barnett. kathy barnett lives in montgomery county. he has 33% of the votes there. mccormack, when we talk about our race in just a few thousand votes. that is what we are talking about. kathy barnett potential impact here on this base. we were at polling location earlier today stephanie. a great number of voters said they were heavily considering her. not often ultimately voted for her to give her the win. but she may have changed the outcome in this base if mehmet oz is not able to take the lead here. >> so she took a big bite out of office, her advisor, happy to talk about that with you. how about his advisors? has his campaign said anything to you tonight? >> yeah just in the last ten minutes they said they feel good about the direction this is heading in. while noting it is, tightening. and i think steve is better at cracking down the numbers. i cattle be frank with you stephanie, you know you have these conversations. campaigns are usually hedging their bets on the day. as polls are closing. we didn't hear that from these campaigns here. there is an acknowledg

we can't trust kathy barnett. >> kathy's going to be a lot of trouble. lot of trouble. she's totally, totally an unknown and we can't have that. >> down to the wire for the pennsylvania republican primaries, and that happens -- actually democratic primaries too but let's talk about the republican primary with our panel. we have david urban here, mr. pennsylvania. i should say you are supporting david mccormick. >> the winner in the race. >> okay, in the primary for the senate. but how worried are you about kathy barnette? >> i think everybody's kind of concerned a bit, as the tease let in, she's just unvetted, unknown. there are more questions about her resume then there are answers. as you know, that is fodder for the democrats in the fall. she's already run for congress once and got drubbed. and the concern is she will run again and get drubbed in the fall this year. >> let's pull back to widen the aperture as they say and look at what this means to further the republican party. this is just going to be the latest in a real tug of war over whether or n

kathy barnett is one _ election usually wins. kathy barnett is one or— election usually wins.eason that she would be unelectable in the fall. that she would be unelectable in the fall she's— that she would be unelectable in the fall. she's made statements for example. — fall. she's made statements for example, paedophilia is the cortisol doing _ example, paedophilia is the cortisol doing a _ example, paedophilia is the cortisol doing a cornerstone of islam. that's ridiculous, _ doing a cornerstone of islam. that's ridiculous, obviously. she's made signals— ridiculous, obviously. she's made signals like — ridiculous, obviously. she's made signals like that, she's an extreme i’ili'it signals like that, she's an extreme right wing, — signals like that, she's an extreme right wing, she's for banning abortion, _ right wing, she's for banning abortion, no exceptions. no exception for rate or incense. she would _ exception for rate or incense. she would be — exception for rate or incense. she would be the easiest candidate on their side — would be the easiest candidate on their side

kathy barnette does not have that. she's worked the ground the last year. meeting county folks and meeting different republican organizations but she does not have that organization. so if she pulls off the win tonight, we'll talk about the ability of a candidate with grassroots momentum, the ability to spread their message online through social media, being able to pull off and essentially beat back against well-known figures who have tens of millions of dollars, a tv star and a former ceo of a hedge fund. that is what is at stake here in this race here. willie. >> vaughn, if you at that poll right there, you have that cluster of the three of them all within the margin of error. how fascinating, what a representation that where the republican party is is that his closing argument is donald trump on a speaker phone. there you have it. as you travel around the state, what seems to be the motive and the reason behind this surge from barnette? what are you hearing from voters? they're not buying the shape shifting of doctor oz because she does seem to have com

it'd be someoneour it kathy bar, not dr. oz. you know, i've heard him on the breakfast club and all of these other things. he panders toan the left. he panders to the ideals that are destructing the poor so the poor in our nation. he panders to mass abortions. . so whenever you say we're going to play, we're going to play some some of that . what do you say to the tweet that are getting all the attention that kathy barnett tweets about whiteboarding planes and othern things she said that have gotten a lot of heat out there ? what about those? of that i think a lot of that is out of context. you know, first off, their doctoring up so many different things and trying to smearr her . about you know, i don't come out talking about dr. oz or anybody else, but when you start smearing a woman, a guy like kathy barnett who serve in ourr in our military, who's been a devout christian all of her life, i have a problem with thatith in the tweets that she made, many of them aret taking completely out of context. startt talking about muslims

kathy can win. people said the same thing about donald trump in 2016. kathy can win. we see the numbers. joe biden has lost 20% of black voters, hispanics and young people. the new york fed said that inflation would increase by 3.9% in three years that will be in to the general election. democrats will have a hard time not just in this season right now but four years from now. this is a telling story that inflation will continue, the economy is likely going to get worse. we might go into a recession. at that point democrats that are mainstream folks, the independents that make the difference, are looking for people looking out for the pocket books, not raising taxes and staying from this woke political stuff. >> charles: it's more important in the rust belt, jason. seems like an uphit battle for democrats in the mid-terms. >> that's without question. it's a tough road. i think one of the things as i said, as long as republicans keep putting up difficult to elect candidates, people that are outside of the main stream, it's going to -- it gets a lot easier. people that

kathy barnette and her supporters in a prayer circle. a short time ago, they were engaged in dancing. so it's been a night full of hope, especially here at the barnette camp. unexpected things have happened in this race. namely barnette's rise to her popularity. that happened earlier this month. that came from the supreme court draft opinion leak of roe v. wade as barnette really points herself to be the pro life candidate. so she saw a lot of momentum there. the question is now did that lead to turnout at the polls and that remains to be seen. a lot of hope in this room right now from elizabethtown. >> laura: thanks. and now to bryan llenas at the headquarters for dr. oz. he came in tonight loading most poms. what can you tell us? >> they came in with momentum. they believed that they had momentum especially after the president's endorsement in april. the big question is whether enough voters showed up today for the day of vote to support dr. oz. that endorsement from president trump was sought after by pretty much everybody here in the

now let me be very clear now the surging candidacy of kathy barnett. i've interviewed kathy. i like kathy. she was very nice when i interviewed her . but the problem is we're now looking at what is must holdan republican senate seat if the republicans want to ever take the majority in the u.s. senate. she up to this point in this race has never been vetted because up until this week her polling frankly didn't reallyee warrant it. and this is very important. don't forget back in 2020 she was in a congressional race in pennsylvania's 4th congressional district. she lost that race, by appneral election race whopping 20 points. also today whent the washington examiner reached out to her campaign, she declined to respond to very simple, straightforward questions about her candidacy. theseetfors questions like whew she an adjunct professorct and when was she an adjunctro professor and when did she move from virginia to pennsylvania? and that's not all we did a lot of vetting ourselves. e while kathy claims to be a maga conservative, she has a very troubling history of attacking don

the surgeon candidacy of kathy barnett, i have interviewed kathy, i like kathy. her. the problem is, we are now looking at what is a must-hold republican senate seat if the republicans want to ever take the majority in the u.s. senate. she, up to this point in this race, has never been vetted, up to this week, poling didn't warrant eight. this is very important. back in 2020, she was in a congressional race in the fourth congressional district, she lost that race, that general electric race, by a whopping 20 points. also today, when the "washington examiner" reached out to her campaign, she declined to respond to a very simple, straightforward questions about her candidacy. these are questions like, where was she an adjunct professor and when she is adjunct professor, and when did she move from virginia to pennsylvania, and that is not all. we did a lot of venting ourselves. but while kathy claims to be -- the 43 president, she treated, a lot of tweets, did you see the last presidential debate. trump was hard. followed that up with, trump is just as liberal as de

kathy barnett is a veteran. a radical right political commentator who appears to be gaining traction of the republican primary voters, in large part, to her authentically extremist views. in an old blog post she once referred to the, quote, homosexual agenda as a moral and perverse. going to quote, make no mistake, homosexuality is a targeted group in the bible, right along with, cheats drunkard, spoilers, foul mouthed, extortionists, robbers, and then other habitual sense. but she is best known for her frankly disgusting anti-muslim bigotry. just listen to come and she made the need to be uploaded back in 2015 uncovered by journalist andrew kaczynski. >> the mindset of a muslim is very different from the mindset of americans. and that's the reason why we cannot fully understand the level, the depth of the depravity. the depth of the if. because it is not part of the american fabric, for the loss of. >> we wanted to run a test where we replace muslims with jews to see if that sounds, if it's, gowns or they will

kathy barnette lives in montgomery county. of the vote there, then there is mehmet oz at 27%, and then there is mccormick. when you talk about race or just a few thousand votes, that's what we're talking about. kathy barnette's potential impact here on this race. where napoleon location here today, stephanie, a great number of voters said they were heavily considering her, of course not enough ultimately voted for it to give you the win. she may have changed the outcome in this race, if mehmet oz is not able to take the lead here. so she took a big bite out of oz her advisor, happy to talk about that with you to talk about that with you. how about his advisors? has his campaign said anything to you tonight? >> yeah just in the last ten minutes they said they feel good about the direction this is heading in. while noting it is, tightening. and i think steve is better at cracking down the numbers. i gotta be frank with you stephanie, you know you have these conversations. campaigns are usually hedging their bets on the day. as p

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oz and mc cormick have been an in this late surge by kathy barnett, sh has not conceded. she's wrapping it up for the night and no one has conceded. what do you think of her late rally. you and i have both interviewed her with them the last few days. there was a role hope and momentum within our campaign that she could pull off something rather stunning. >> i think that she was coming in and the other to candidates were caught offguard by her success. i said earlier tonight going in judging by the polls, it was anybody's ballgame. dave mccormick could come in third at the beginning of this night as going into election da but as we know the only poll that matters is the election poll and people voting. kevin -- kathy barnett had an interestin run and she had some controvers in the final days in both campaigns realize the threat that she was and spent some tim going after her, even the forme president having a robo call specifically mentioning her in his endorsement of dr. oz in a phone an event. and i think it is going to come down to that she was a major factor in this ra

kathy barnett never seemed to have an answer.look. >> where were you an adjunct college professor? >> let me make this really short for you. you can go to my website. we place right there on the front page, around my family is a will and the things you want to know about kathy barnett, an overwhelming majority of the tweets that are now being presented are not even full thoughts bear they're not even full sentences. and yet people take it and they begin to build their own narrative around it. i can't provide a lot of context because again, it's almost ten years ago. >> was your contact? i'm very curious about this. >> regarding those particular tweets, if you look at your tweets, they're not even a full thoughts. it's not even a full sentence. it's not even a full sentence. so there is more to follow. and because it was seven, eight years ago, i don't know what it is. and when presented initially, i had no idea. it was just ambushed. speak okay. when asked about it, she says, it doesn't sound like me. why is it on your timeline?

by the way, democrats love the idea of kathy barnett winning now. it could be our only chancee we have to get this right the nexty two years to stop biden's radical climate alarmists religious cult agenda a, a new green deal agenda. look at this wholesale wholesale prices nowce 11%, a nw 40 year high even fake news. cnn reporting that americans now are skipping meals, racking up debt. 66 66% of american families living paycheck to paycheck gas prices all week long hitting one new record high after another. y and you know how joe responded it cancels yet another mass of oil and gas lease in alaskask and one in the gulf of mexico. genius that he is i guess he's going to go back and make an iranian deal , a venezuelan deal , beg opec to produce energy when we have our ownme energy. meanwhile, a response to the nationwideane, r baby formua shortage circle back final day. jen psaki suggested that worried parents call . doctor what's the doctor going to do? where does the doctor have baby formula b? >> what a dumb answer. said it waslt a public health que

oz versusday mccormick versus kathy barnett. the top three on the gop side to replace senator pat toomey who is retiring. many scratched their heads over how the pennsylvania gop party oversaw this whole thing and why they would have allowed it to become a battle, a three-way battle. they each have 20% in the layest polls. now it's down to the wire on the gop side. early on, a big battle for the nod from the former president. that went to dr. oz. that was a move that some conservatives said was a mistake. tonight we'll see who is right about the dr. oz pick on the part of the former president. on the democrat side, the person that hopes to flip that senate seat from republican to democrat is john fedderman. he's in the hospital with a stroke said to be recovering. he won't be there for tonight's big celebration if that's what he has to celebrate this evening. so here's what "the new york times" wrote about it. they said this race threatens to implode the state's republican party with a blast radius that might be felt as far away

kathy: well, it depends.are holding individual bonds and you hold them to par, you are still going to get your principal and your interest payments by default all the way along. so you earn whatever that current yield was when you bought the bond. if you are in a bond thud, usually takes longer, but what will happen is the manager is reinvested for higher income, and on a total return basis over tisumihat rates don't go sky high from here, which we don't think is likely, you earn your way back with the income. jonathan: thank you for being with us this morning, kathy jones of the swab center for financial research. citi just published, "have we reached peak inflation, peak hawkish nests? the equity market selloff and fed officials pushing back against 75 basis point hikes raises questions about whether we have reached peak hawkish miss -- peak hawkishness. we see the potential for a fed to take another hawkish step, guiding to a higher terminal rate at an upcoming meeting." that is the citi view out there thi

kathy barnette spent a fraction of that. on the traditional advertising, voter lists, the traditional things candidates do, you have seen all three campaigns and their ground game. talk to me about that piece of it. >> right, there's a lot of former trump hands who are helping mehmet oz's campaign, and jeff rowe, the mastermind of ted cruz's political operations is a part of this mccormick campaign here. these folks understood the million of dollars that it would require to not only knock doors, make phone calls, but there's these likely voter contact lists that are months in the making here. ultimately in these final days, as mark said, this state overwhelmingly votes the day of. they are using those resources to contact those very voters and get them out to the poles. kathy barnette, that operation didn't exist. yes, she worked hard the last 13 months going from county gop events to churches herself. but i was talking about a national adviser that came in literally four days ago, hallie, and said none of that was in place.

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[inaudible] the stars aligned for kathy barnette.ou, said those photos can only endure her more to the primary voters, and find her incredibly authentic. she is the and politician, she says whatever she feels, timing again was unbelievable. after the leak of the draft opinion from justice alito, she has this amazing video out to go to the heart of the primary electorate about how she was the result of the rape of her 11 year old mother, and she still believes in no exceptions as a pro-lifer for rape or incest or anything else. culture is going gaga for her over on twitter, everyone thinks she is the real deal, and now she has the endorsement of scott perry, her pennsylvania congressman we who is under subpoena from the january six committee and had a role in the two month coup plot. so i think if you're oz and mccormick, you just ran into a buzzsaw of bad luck because in the seven days she had, to have all these things come into place, and the fact that even though trump said she is really trouble, and can't win the general election,

perhaps the biggest is the surge of candidate kathy barnett. was here this morning casting her ballot. we were here with her. barnett is a candidate who first rose to prominence on claims of election fraud, including in her own election back in 2020, she ran for congress here. i will say, she has recently taken a turn in her messaging on that. last night, she instead of talking about her loss because of alleged election fraud, which we know to be false, she instead talked about the fact she lost by fewer points than trump. when she was here, we asked her whether voters she's asking to turn out for her, whether they can trust the process. >> make sure you are coming out and voting. don't allow anything to discourage you. every republican, you need to be at the polls. you need to make sure your voice is heard. i'm so excited. >> win or lose, will you back the republican nominee? >> i will. >> do you have any connection to the proud boys? >> thank you so much. >> mccormack made his way across pennsylvania, making his final case to voters. we caugh

oz and kathy barnett.s it possible that barnett has been able to fly under the radar with people thinking it's between you and dr. oz? >> i think what's happening now is the voters are really focused and they are asking demanding questions of everybody kathy barnett's case i have gotten to know her on the campaign trail and i appreciate her personal story but she has been tested over the last couple years and she lost the congressional race here in pennsylvania by 20 points now there are all sorts of questions being raised about her background experience and we have all had to answer those questions. it's quite appropriate that she gets stress tested like all the candidates get stress tested and i think pennsylvanians are ultimately going to decide based on those three questions that i mentioned and i am again presenting myself as someone who has been battle tested as a west point graduate, a combat veteran. someone who has created jobs in pennsylvania and someone who is a pennsylvania true guy. in other w

on the other hand , you have kathy barnett and her surge. david mccormick going with or touting the backing of former secretary of state mike pompeo.. they went to west point together, were a year apart and also that of senator ted cruz hoping all of us will come together and be enough to put him over the top. if you get ar t goodhe bit newse in the last hour, hour and a half or so and that's atha the democratic side of this race has been called john fetterman and lieutenant governor , the more progressive of the candidates beating out conor lambti, a congressman running as a centrist, they feel good about that and a potential matchup first they say they've got g to get through this first. clearly spectacularcl bridge. thanks so much.we we'll check back and now unite and fight. >> that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> well, whatever the outcome in this latest gopop primary tonight it's time to put aside differences shelve the petty squabbles, lot of nipping atip each other all come back together to take back the t senate in november. now u

kathy barnette is the surprise.message even though donald trump says she would be a failed candidate. these are the candidates trying to keep this seat in republican hands. one of them will end tonight. listen to the closing message. >> as someone who went to pest point, went to combat, has created jobs in pennsylvania, i have the conservative values that allow me to show up in the senate on day one and make a difference. i want to be the loud voice in washington who can speak to our culture, our values. i am pro life and pro second amendment. >> i went and met with any and everyone who would listen to me. and i told -- i just -- i just ran a far superior campaign than my opponents. and now they're really mad. they're really mad. >> jeff zeleny is on the ground in pifhiladelphia as voters cas votes. jeff, what are you seeing? >> reporter: there is no doubt that kathy barnette has been the surprise over the last week or so. the question has she peaked too early? you cannot watch really more than a few moments of tele

i just want to mention that kathy barnette just entered this room.hanking her supporters and hugging people. they are expecting her to do well in eastern pennsylvania. her campaign say they're feeling great that she's going to see a lot of late-breaking voters move her way. they expect to see her do well in places like bucks county, berks county, also the philadelphia area. they believe that she has done the work and that she will be rewarded for it by crisscrossing the state traveling hundreds of miles. she believes that the voters will support her. jake. >> athena jones, thanks so much. john king, some nail-biters going on in pennsylvania right now. >> remember, it took us a week to count the votes last time in pennsylvania in the presidential race. jake, it's home to you so 40% of the voters are in philadelphia and the counties around it. so can one candidate run it up where the more affluent, college educated republicans live? can they run it up here? this part here in the middle is trump country. does kathy barnette get that vote or does that en

why then did kathy barnette benefit?ks. >> her partnership with doug mastriano is very beneficial. her story is very compelling. she's talked on the trail about how she is a, quote, this is how she puts it, by-product of a rape. and how that has influenced her views on abortion. her mother was 11 years old when she was conceived. a lot of voters that i talked up brought up that bio brought up her pro life positions. and she also, you know, made a name for herself within the republican grass roots leading this hunt for baseless voter fraud after her 2020 house race that she lost. >> david urban, what do you make of your former boss, president trump's statement, relative to barnette. i quoted see the li dan. it's some real pretzel logic to say she's not been vetted. but if she is vet and wins i'll be supporting her. >> well, you know, the president is trying to have it both ways there, michael. clearly as robert and you pointed out, there is the lack of journalism, investigative journalism in this instance is just kind of

>> well, listen, i respect kathy and i've gotten to know her on the campaign trail but kathy's been testedthy was tested 18 24 months ago when she ran for the congressional seat and lost by 20 points and now what's happening is there's a lot of focus on her. she has the spotlight on her because people recognize the stakes are so high and she's being asked to answer questions that are the very same questions i answered on the first day about my background military experience all those things. totally legitimate questions. and the reason that those questions are so important is, whatever, you know, back and forth is going on in the primary or whatever, you know, tough attacks are happening, it's going to be ten times worse in the general election. because this is like the super bowl. this is the race that sends chuck schumer packing back to new york on with his suit indicate to move back permanently to new york. so we've got to have the right person that can marshall a team, credibility, resilience, to win this. this matters for our country. so, listen, i think we should all be scrutinized a

mehmet oz against dave mccormick and conservative fire brand kathy barnette. on the democratic side it is also too early to call the senate primary featuring lieutenant governor john fetterman, congressman connor lamb and state representative malcolm kenyatta. it is too early to call the republican race for pennsylvania governor. doug mastriano is running against lou barletta, bill mcswain and businessman dave white. but we do have a projection to make in the democratic governor's race. and cnn projects pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro will be the democratic nominee for pennsylvania governor. shapiro coasts through uncontested. he will face the winner of the republican gubernatorial primary in the fall. dana bash, shapiro is counting on having a republican candidate, republican competitor whom he can easily paint as extreme. >> absolutely. he's already starting to do that. we should note that josh shapiro announced that he's positive for covid so i'm not sure that we'll actually see him tonight. but jake is exactly right. he became a national figure

meet kathy bar nete, the ultra maga candidate in the next primary. with folks like sean hannity and trump himself as she channels the worst anti-immigrant, anti-gay sentiments of maga. >> the mindset of a muslim is very different from the mindset of americans. >> the new natural law is two men, two well and pretty soon since it is based on love and feelings and respect and dignity, who to say -- who are we to now say your love is legitimate love but then say a pedophile, man love with a boy, a 12-year-old boy, is illegitimate? >> barack husain obama, i try to mention his name as much as possible, sensing at some point a light bulb will be off in someone's head. >> barnette has repeatedly called barack obama a muslim, tapping into trump's birtherism. tonight she is in a statistical tie with the two other gop candidates. trump endorsed dr. oz, millionaire businessman, david mccormick. now, to be clear, all three are election deniers succumbing to the big lie, but barnette isn't speaking in code like some maga candidates do. as blatant as the muslim ban

who is kathy barnett? a right-wing commentator and activist, who has benefited from the leaked supreme court draft, allowing her to highlight her compelling story as someone who was conceived in rape. she opposes legal abortion, even in cases of rape and incest. why is the republican south concerned? simply because she has a history of making extreme comments. some of which have been described as hateful regarding lgbt americans, muslim american, as she pushes conspiracy theories about former president barack obama, and when asked about these comments, she sometimes denies she makes them. even though the tweets are still up on her social media feed. and she struggles to articulate a substantive defense on them. she was asked earlier about this later, i will play the tape. >> the overwhelming majority of the tweets that are now being presented are not even full thoughts. they are not even full sentences. and yet people take it and they begin to build their own narrative around it. so i cannot provide a lot

kathy has been surging.t those candidates to look as favorably upon you as they do kathy. so, you know, that's just the nature of the politics of it. you know, it makes for strange bedfellows every time, even in primaries. >> michael, i want to move back to the events here in buffalo, while i have you. representative liz cheney said house leaders have, quote, enabled white nationalism and white supremacy and anti-semitism. history has taught us what begins with words sends in far worse. i'll tell you, this is echoed in the community michael. as i spoke with community members here yesterday, i asked them if they had trust in washington, in lawmakers to get this done. they said what happened here on saturday is not just the result of 400 years of racism. it's the result of the words being used in washington by members, specifically, as they told me, of the republican party, of the gop. what do you make of that? >> liz has nailed it. as she has from the very beginning of this. i agree with her words wholehearte

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kathy barnette will never be able to win the general election against the radical left.president, so thank you so much. >> it's a sign you're on the rise, would you agree? >> i would agree. >> reporter: in one of the most closely watched senate races in the country, which democrats believe offers the best chance to pick up a seat to help hold their majority, a messy family feud deep inside the maga movement is spilling out for all to see. >> maga does not belong to president trump, although he coined it, it never shifted to president trump's values. >> reporter: a compelling personal story sparked interest in her candidacy. >> i'm a little black girl from a pig farm in alabama who grew up with no running water, an outhouse in the back and a well on the side. >> reporter: she pushed utterly false claims the election was stolen and linked her candidacy to doug mastriano. suddenly the polls show a three-way contest. rival republicans are in a mad scramble to scrutinize her background in hopes of slowing her surprising rise. >> she is a mystery person. we don't know much abo

today, the president sent out a message saying kathy barnett will never win in the general election. what is your response to that? >> and then the second paragraph? but if she should get through, she will have a wonderful career. and i will be there to support her. >> republicans are so worried about another far-right big lie promoter, pennsylvania state senator doug --, he is now running to be the republican nominee for governor. and i want to share what he shared in the recent debate. >> the most important thing is i get to a the secretary of state. and the secretary of state, they will clean up the election laws. we will reset, in fact, the registration. you will have to re-register. you will have to start all over again. >> tonight, axios reporting that he might also get trump's backing in the form of an official endorsement. with that, let's bring in our experts. a longtime pennsylvania reporter, and the editor in chief of and the capital star., -- mcquade, she worked with the department of justice during the biden transition, and is a professor at the university of michigan la

kathy barnett has her own baggage.onths kathy campaigned across pennsylvania drawing attention yet remaining largely an afterthought in the republican senate race. from the outside the race played out as a vicious two man brawl. >> mammoth has flipped flopped on every single issue. >> reporter: fueled by big money and big names of tv celebrity dr. david oz.. less than a week before the primary election, barnett's late surge is sending shock waves across the gop and ro provoked s warning for trump. kathy barnett will never be able to win the general election against the radical left. tiepts she gently disagreed. >> i look forward to working with the president. thank you so much. >> reporter: in one of the most closely watched senate races in the country which democrats believe offer the best chance to pick up a seat to help hold their majority, a messy family feud. deep inside the maga movement is spilling out for all to see. >> maga does not belong to president trump. all though he coined the word, maga belongs to the

when you look at kathy barnett. >> i was going to say, kathy barnett and john, not your cookie cutteru story and persona matters a lot. dr. oz, only there as legitimate as he is, because he's a tv star. this, as much as the ideology that trump unleashed, it is this cult of personality in our politics over party, over ideology, any other affiliation that he represents and that will long outlive him. >> this is the problem. big personalities win elections. big personalities have trouble governing once they win office. >> donald trump. governing. i mean, you wouldn't put trump and governing in the same sentence but the fact is, he's not only a big personality, he became a big personality for feelings that were already there. he tapped into what was there and he became the representation of that. so a lot of people that felt that way and act as uncouth as he acts felt like, hey, i've got a shot because not only does he speak to what i want, he is who i am. >> ashley, ultra maga. this was, this ultra maga messaging by team biden. >> believe it or not, six months of research. by liberal gro

and kathy barnett surging like we never predicted.h is on the line for president trump. >> president trump got involved in this race early on. he had to drop out of the race because of a custody battle. then the dr. oz and temperature mccormick got in the race. kathy barnett has been running as the america first candidate, yet you had the president attacking her saying she can't win a general election against democrats running in primaries. polling is razor tight. president trump has invested a lot in this. he has had his surrogates out. but there are a lot of issues in his background in terms of what he believes in. the polling is very, very tight. brian very james corden the on late night tv pointing out what joe biden brought up. >> president biden attacked's economic record and mocked trump with a new nickname. biden called trump the great maga king. congratulations, joe. you selected the one nickname that donald trump will gladly keep. brian: what is your thought about this? >> president trump is the king of nicknames. the maga k

, take a look at places where kathy barnette's in first place, like montgomery county. now this is her home county. it's the third largest county in pennsylvania. oz is in second place. so you see there's evidence that they're eating into each other's bases. and if you add those two numbers up of course mccormick's in a distant third. but mccormick may have been able to come through the middle. take a look where he's rising which is surprising. rural counties. traditionally rural counties are the heart of trump country, especially in a state like pennsylvania. mccormick outperforming in a lot of these rural counties. also something interesting to take a look at. this is coal country. now, dr. oz is performing particularly well in coal country. however, mccormick is doing pretty well in suburban counties and also this base of pittsburgh where he grew up. so you see mccormick has a lot of room to grow in some of the bigger counties in the state but it's pretty clear that barnette ate into oz and that's got to be driving the trump folks crazy tonight. >> listen, that was o