europe as a whole but -- >> i have a good relationship with kathy ashton who is the first high rep foreign affairs. the relationship with china is absolutely consequential and that's not just a semantic difference. we have to have a very clear understand with china, which is why we put together this strategic and economic dialogue, because they are prone to misread us and, occasionally, we are prone to misread them. so we have to keep the channels open. >> charlie: it's a danger. a big danger. and, you know, when i agreed to let the blind dissident chen into our embassy, it could have blown up our relationship for years to come. they stopped talking to people who meet with the dalai lama. but because we invested so much time and effort into building a relationship, you know, really people to people, official to official, we were able to weather that and we need to do more because it is such a consequential relationship. >> charlie: if i don't mention it, a thousand people will write saying why didn't you mention benghazi. two questions, one is the question of whether there was enough secur