name -- >> linda, duncan cavy, carol glausening, linda stark, brian hornbeck, gilbert johnson and kathy belan. >> hi, i'm karen siskin. disclosure, i'm on the hanc board and on the hanc rec

name -- >> linda, duncan cavy, carol glausening, linda stark, brian hornbeck, gilbert johnson and kathy belan. >> hi, i'm karen siskin. disclosure, i'm on the hanc board and on the hanc recycling committee. i was going to come in here and talk about integrity but i think we've heard a lot about that. but decided instead i would focus on the issue of smell. this gentleman segued me right into it. i want to talk about red herrings because we've had so many red herrings thrown out here during the course of this meeting. the first one was smell and calvin welsch addressed that. that's never been hanc or the advisory committee. red herring. noise, captain newellen at his request we had professionals come in and test the sound from the recycling center within limits. red herring. crime, captain newellen again in several other people pointing to the crime directly related to the recycling center and around the recycling center brfment you take that on face value, check out the crime stats we have. what you're facing here is neighborhood politics, agar jakes called it. you're being asked to participa