kathy davis is here. she might want to explain some more of their ideas how they've been brainstorming this program. i do think it can go both ways. that's one of the things that we looked for in all the proposals was to have a two-way give and receive. >> commissioner knutzen: okay. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm kathy davis. we're really excited about doing intergenerational activities. on saturday we had had intergenerational class with young people and seniors working together to make jewelry for valentine's day. it's two-way street. the seniors learn, the kids learn and we worked with all kinds of groups already in bayview. we're hosting our annual black lavine. there will be kids volunteering and seniors volunteering side by side. it's kind of who we are as an organization. to be able to formalize this and we have someone making those connections happen, they already happen informally. now we're able to really solidify it. we're excited about that opportunity and it's kind of great to see. i th

. >> kathy, everyone can turnover a new leaf. michael cohen has admitted, lanny davis said he's going to talk about the character of drum. michael cohen has the same character. >> he's not only lied to congress, part of what he's doing, he's been in two closed sessions and one public session. one of the reasons he's on capitol hill this week is preparing to testify both privately and publicly, because part of what he's doing is preparing for his sentencing. he has to crum across as credible, turning over a new leaf. i've now come to god. i now understand what's going on. i i'm now credible. yes, i've lied before, but now i'm telling the truth. when you are a defense attorney this is a dream come true to be able to cross-examine somebody who pled guilty to false statements, perjury, lying under oath. you lied before, you can lie now. look at the demeanor. does he look you in the eye? is he corroborated by documents? 0 do you believe him? is he lying about stupid things, is he lying about important things? what do you take out of it? use your common sense. so when we loo