resources you have what you can do really well get in there and do it if it's what people want and kathy gordon is not paid me off. i just have to say national history day which we are the sponsors for massachusetts has been a godsend because it is a very specific. of skills a lot of work, but it's a very specific set of skills that are very relevant to historians the ability to research look at evidence create arguments make what we don't ever use this term but a thesis statement using evidence and that's something that even though right now we're deep in the history day contest. my staff is horribly overworked, but they would say very proudly that even with the staff of two we can make an enormous amount of difference in our case for about 6,000 students a year and growing. well, i think that's the key you hit on is looking for good partnerships. right? right. we recognize that i mean presidential sites and in the organizations running them have lots of influence. the name carries a lot of respect that is helpful, and there's lots of great civic education organizations, you know ours and many