kathy griffin, brand new, hot, terrific or joan's still around. and we get the same agent and he says to me, look at her booking sheet. well, you want to go -- >> kathy, is this true? >> i love the last name is still around. kathy's still around. look, these ladies have longevity and that's what i love and admire and i think we are all in it for that, right, gals? we like the longevity than the flash in the pan. >> we would have to come up with a new job. it's ridiculous. we know how to do this. >> no. it's too late for me to be a dental hygienist. that ship has sailed. >> no, but you know, the one thing good thing i thought, i wanted to be an actress and realized to be a comedian. that's the door that opened and then how lucky. it doesn't matter how old we are as long as -- >> age doesn't matter in comedy? >> as long as you're funny. >> it's amazing, though. >> it's true. >> you're still out in comedy clubs. >> yes. >> trying out new material. >> constantly. >> every wednesday and tuesday night. >> when did you do stand-up? >> july. >> two shows o