. >> kathy grillo is senior vice president and our guest on the communicators. what do you do at verizon? >> i'm in charge of public policy stuff, federal, state, regulatory, legislative, legal responsibilities too, i cover a lot of things. >> host: when you look at it they how much time do you focus on the fcc, how much time do you focus on congress and other agencies? >> good question. depends on what is going on. sometimes we spend a lot of time on issues of state, there is a lot going on at the fcc, congress when it is in session. depends what the issues are. >> host: what are the major issues facing verizon? >> guest: spectrum is a big issue for us. we are very focused on strategy. as a company we committed to be the first us company to rule out 5g, a new iteration of wireless technology, we are poised to a wave of innovation of 5g. we have a commercial pilot, commercial product. in order to do that we are able to roll it out. that is something we spend a lot of time on at the fcc and chairman wheeler announced the fcc will vote on an order in july and open

if they get this big long document they don't understand that is not good either. >> kathy grillo was a litigator, is from long island, u.v.a. undergrad and long school. john mckinnon from north carolina and "the wall street journal" next question? >> another thing that flows from the net neutrality decision is what the fcc is going to do about what i think of as zero ratings which is who gets to charge or not charge for which kind of data. verizon like everybody else is in this conversation. talk a little bit about how you think that issue ought to play out. >> yeah. i think the way that should play out is actually on a case by case basis. these are products being rolled out right now by various companies in different ways. and it's a nays ent product so to speak. they haven't -- the customers have been responding to them pretty positively. people like free data. they like free things. the real issue, it's not really what we're charging for it but who pays for the access to the content. is it the customer or a third party? somebody that has a new product and wants to get it in front

. >> tonight on the communicators kathy grillo senior vice president at severe stone and new head of public policy and government affairs operations in washington on the key issues in telecom like net neutrality, 5g and need for more spectrum. she's joined by john mckennan. >> there's some characteristics of the spectrum that make it complicated in that environment. there's a very narrow line of sight. >> doesn't go through walls very well. >> exactly. there's some issues with that. but there's actually a lot of kind of complex engineering developments that have developed these new antennas. so there's actually way to kind of adjust for that kind of wish spectrum and make it more usable in that kind of environment. >> watch the communicators tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span 2. >> next on american history tv, judy wu an asian-american studies professor talks about thee

kathy grillo of verizon. talking about net neutrality. joined by wall street journal technology reporter john mckinnon. there are some issues with that. complexa lot of technology development and develop these new antennas. adjust forway to that spectrum. >> watch the communicators tonight at 8:00 eastern time. the hard-fought 2016 primary season is over. with historic political conventions succumb. c-span is the millions consider the nomination of the first woman ever to hit a major political party. and the first non-politician to head party in several decades. a video-on-demand. you have a front row seat to every minute of both political conventions. georgetown university held a discussion on first ladies and their impact on public policy. the panel consisted of two former chiefs of staffs to former first ladies hillary clinton and laura bush and current chief of staff to current first lady michelle obama. there is just under an hour. >> we'll go ahead and get the program started. on massive of georgetown's institute of politics and pub

. >> kathy grillo is senior vice president and our guest on the communicators.what do you do at verizon? >> i'm in charge of public policy stuff, federal, state, regulatory, legislative, legal responsibilities too, i cover

eastern on c-span two. , the new, kathy grillo had a public policy and affairs policy in washington onet neutrality and the need for more spectrum. reporter johny mckennitt. >> there are some characteristics of this spectrum that make it complicated. there is a narrow line of sight. >> it doesn't go through walls very well. >> there are some issues with that but there are a lot of complex engineering developments that have developed these new antennas. there is a way to adjust for that kind of issue that will make it more usable. >> watch the communicators monday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> washington journal continues. >> in our last 30 minutes of the washington journal today, we are asking you simply how you define patriotism in the united states today, a question we decided to put forth on this fourth of july weekend as we show you some of the newspaper front pages from around the country. here are the front pages of the montgomery advertiser. the front page of the kansas city star today, a divided nation unites on the fourth. the chair came to be in saying "happy fourth. we are

tonight on the communicators, kathy grillo, senior vice president at horizon and had a public policythe government affairs operations in washington on the key issues and telecom like net neutrality, 5g, and the need for more spectrum. she is one way technology reporter john mckenna and. >> there are some spectrum issues that make it complicated in that environment. there is a narrow line of sight. >> it does not go through walls are he will? >> exactly. there is a lot of complex engineering developments that have developed using new antennas. forming.rming -- beam it will make it more useful in that kind of environment. >> tonight at eight eastern on c-span two. washington journal continues. host: here to talk politics and more for the next hour or so, we are joined by eleanor clift, washington correspondent for the daily beast at a longtime regular panelist on the maclachlan group and more. and terry jeffrey, editor in since --the news desk thank you for joining us on this fourth of july. caller: happy fourth guest: happy fourth the human everybody. host: we spent the first hour tal