. >> i'm kathy herwit. i want to follow up on that. i was actually surprised with the chart two charts you had failing taxpayers to finding that as essentially too many people are on ssdi. and i don't think that's failing taxpayers. i think that's a good thing as a taxpayer. i don't know what would be happening to them. i assume that you're saying not that there are too many people getting ssdi, but there should be other things for them in the workplace. and i guess -- i hope that's what you mean. i hope you don't mean we should take 2.2 million people and just throw them on the streets. but in terms of the workplace, i'd like to know how you think we get employers to provide not just jobs for people with disabilities, but good jobs for people with disabilities that provide good benefits and the supports that they need, particularly in this time, but in this political time when nobody seems to want to be required to do anything in the the employment sector. do we require that they provide adequate health coverage? do we require that th