we'll talk to you later now i want to bring this his longtime friend kathy hilton. a very, very difficult day, i would imagine, for you as his friend and for the family to see these pictures of michael lying dead. i found quite shocking. and the audio tape of him in an almost zombie-like condition perhaps even more so. what was your reaction to those two things? >> i saw that this morning, and when i heard the tape, i could not believe what i was hearing. i was -- i had never heard anything like that before with anyone. i mean, if that doesn't show you, don't you think that was enough? >> yeah, what does it show you, though, given that it was taken -- the recording was made in may before he died, two months or so before he died. what does that tell you? >> that's what i was wondering, a, why, michael would never let anyone tape him. and he obviously was very sedated. or he would not let anybody hold anything up like that. not his mother, no one. so i'm sure that -- i don't know how long the doctor was there before -- >> did you find it suspicious? >> i thought it wa