kathy holt is on the line with us who was also on the ship. kathy, i welcome you to msnbc. thank you for joining us tonight. it's been quite an ordeal. how are you feeling right now, kathy? >> i am just very excited that i can see land. >> the simple things in life, right? >> yes. >> what has this ordeal been like for you? what will you remember about it? >> my gosh. well, you got to meet a whole lot of people because you were standing in line waiting for things and worried about things in the hallway. it was really nice to reach out like the olden days and talk to people that you wouldn't normally speak to. i know that sounds strange. >> and how do you think people handled all of this? i mean, as the days were dragging on and the information coming out and the rumor mill and such stuff as that. earlier tonight jayme lamm said it was like the high school with the rumor mill. how was it to manage all that? >> you would hear so many things. but you had to put it into perspective and try to figure out truth from fiction. you know. i didn't -- a lot of people were like oh my go