leah gallagher, suzy welch, kathy ireland, ceo of kathy ireland worldwide, great title there.lorida congresswoman debbie wassermann schultz, chair of the dnc. welcome to you all. kathy, let me start with you. you're the richest. we have talked about your massive fortune before. you are basically a billionairess and it came in a $50,000 investment in socks which is why i love your story. is sheryl sandberg right that too many women lean back rather than lean in when it comes to promoting themselves and being ambitious? >> well, hello, piers. thank you for inviting me back. i don't think any of the women here on the show tonight lean back. sheryl has written a book that is very specific. there are some words of wisdom there but if you do not have a higher education, if you do not work in the corporate world and working for someone else what is you want to do, you might feel a bit left out by this book. miss sandberg tells us to lean in. i say buy the table. that's what i did. i bought the table and today, i design and sell it. what about the women -- forget about the conference

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