in fact i had a fabulous editor kathy marcell nelson who would not let me get away with anything, nothing. there was a street that the economy is on called ursuline. she said would would become the street and when was the avenue and what isn't avenue in 1852 or an avenue in 1857 so i found five references. everything that was in there we took account of so thanks. to kathy. >> host: it's not so much imagination as using their tools as a writer to connect the factual.l. and bring in the sensory quality of the to life in the moment. >> guest: right. fiction itself i have to feel fiction. i have to feel something that's going on through my senses. i have five senses so for me to feel anything gets through your senses. they have to know what it smells like and what the sound is when they are in the room. icc saw -- also brought in a little bit of journalism. i've got some pieces of after katrina that are very not like. talking about what it felt like after katrina coming through the senses. >> host: you mention katrina now maps you want to jump in and ask a question because i was surprise