you know, katie couric, 8 million people. i spent the entire weekend just cramming to know every single detail in the budget, so i was ready for any question that katie couric might ask. i knew with the budget was for the peace corps, for the army, i knew what the debt was down to the sixth decimal point and so on. we start the interview and katie couric says mr. moore, iysoo ronald reagan is introducing america's first trillion dollar budget today. she says i only have one question, how many zeros are there in a trillion? it was the worst interview i ever did in my life. i just melted down. it was all downhill from there. by the way, does anyone know how many zeros there are in a trillion? 12, and i know that now but the real question we have to ask yourself is what comes after 100 trillion, a gazillion? but i think you make a very good point that the numbers were talking about are so large there unfathomable and i actually think maybe the sinister part of me, but i think when the obama administration was talking about the s

it wasn't a katie bar the door, let's get any kind of discovery the playoffs are seeking. still that provided a vehicle for the majority to import the other case into this set of facts. >> you mentioned the environmental cases. there were several important environmental cases this term. ted, will you take into that? >> yes. i will start with what john ended with, the standing point. there were five so-call environmental cases and the so-called environmental side lost all five. so i suppose it is going to be characterized as a big lows for the environmental interests and so forth, but most of these cases really had to do with other grounds for decision. one of which john mentioned, which was standing. one of them involved the extent to which people that were objecting to a forest service policy involving the cutting of trees could go ahead and bring this challenge, notwithstanding the fact that the case had been settled, and they were then going to challenge some of the process and procedures and policies of the forest service, notwithstanding the fanth that the -- fact tha

i think the simple sun sounds good but you will find people will say wait a minute, and katie was not asked about that and i don't like that being done and all of a sudden you've got yourself a legal morass. i love the concept. i believe we ought to do something in the bill on it but i would be uneasy about the mandate requiring everybody to do this. that makes me uneasy. >> mr. chairman, i appreciate what you are saying and i understand the legitimate concerns about the mandate. i also understand that this is both in the interest of the individual patient as well as in the interest of cost savings, both of which i think all of us are interested in. i know a couple of members from your side, mr. merkley mr. whitehouse talk to me last week about working on something like what we are trying to do here, so what we leave it on the table. let's talk over the next few days and see if there is a way-- >> some language? >> that will make it work that will satisfy the concern. i don't want to comment on this letter until i can really digested. >> i agree with you. what we do that together and

it wasn't a katie, bar the door, and still that provides a vehicle for the majority to import it into this set of facts. >> i don't know, you mentioned the environmental cases. there were several cases this term, and, ted, would you take us into that? >> yes. i will start with what john ended with which is the standing point. there were five so-called environmental cases, and the so-called environmental side lost all five, so i suppose it's going to be characterized as a big loss for the environmental interests and so forth, but most of these cays really had to do with -- cases really had to do with other grounds for decision, one of which which john mentioned involving the extent to which people harp objecting to a forest service policy in the cutting of trees could go ahead and wring this challenge notwithstanding the fact that the case had been settled, and they were went going to process and procedures and policies of the. justice scalia said there's no stand anything this case. john roberts wrote a law review argue about standing. he joined the justice department in 1981 when rex

in the front here, katie. >> thanks i have a question for fred. couple of questions, actually. can you take a look or compare for us the kind of activism you see the meddling by iran today versus the early days of the revelation, when they had dreams of exporting and -- revolution, when they had dreams of exporting and were much -- were visibly helping a lot of groups, eastern saudi arabia, the eastern gulf, region as well as deeper in the arab world. and also, compare it with the what the oddies -- saudis are doing in promoting their own funds, promoting wahhbism, building mosquealize over the region and to what degree those two are trying to counter each other or is this really just their own domestic agenda. >> i think there's a qualitative difference between obviously the post-revolutionary period in that the appeal -- iran's ideology that it's trying to sell is a mix of rejectionism, it can arguably be called pan arabism. in fact there's an interesting quote from abofficial in hezbollah which said iran's foreign policy is essentially sunni because iran has essentially co-o

. >> hi i'm katie and i'm from taylor university. my question is about your comment on how media has had a damaging affect on our culture. >> yes. >> i have a passion for using media as a positive influence on our culture so i was curious what your thoughts are on you how conservatives have been using media and what kind of improvements you see taking place in the future? >> well -- and media and marketing is something i've studied and worked at for 25 years. so i've done many lectures all day-long workshops on this. but to capsulate it for you. i would say one of the reasons conservative values aren't articulated in the mainstream media today is because if you go back historically to hollywood there was a time when hollywood actually did put forth conservative timeless values. values of patriotism, values of commitment to family. but there was a critical error in history that conservatives and people of faith made. and that was they actually abandoned hollywood because they felt it was becoming evil and what happened when they aband

katie couric, ryan williams, charlie gibson, in my day dan rather, peter jennings, tom brokaw, they never came in the morning and some of their top lieutenants went into a room, turned the lights down, pull the ship is, give the secret handshake and the sacred salute. [laughter] and send you their however going to screw those conservatives or more recently, what can we do today to help get barack obama elected? it doesn't happen that way. i wish it did because that is so on a acceptable that nobody would tolerate it once they found that about it. what happens is worse because it is institutional bias damage is built into the fabric of what they do so that you have a news room filled with like-minded people and if you have too many like minded people in one room, then you have a group thing festered to take over. and these people believe that everything to the right of center is conservative which it is and everything to the left of center it is middle of the road. [laughter] really. everything to the left of center is reasonable. in a civil, it just makes sense, because these media elites

tray howard, cindy howard, derrick scott and katie bloomberg all deserve a special thanks. i want to also thank joe higin for a long effort with us as well as alicia haley. without their hard work and coordination and patience we would not be successful as we are today. a final thanks to the team and the office of the legislative counsel led by sherry cryst and the parliamentarians who provide such excellent support. we thank them and are very grateful for their hard work. the chair: does the gentleman yield back the balance of his time or reserve? mr. skelton: i reserve. the chair: the gentleman from missouri yields back. the gentleman from california. mr. mckeon: mr. speaker, this will probably the last time that i have enough time to thank the staff but i'd like to thank all of the members of the staff. i said, you know, when i was on the education committee we used to have everybody's names written out. i turned to tom and said, we don't do that, sir. we give all the credit to the members. so rather than list all of our names on both sides, i'd like to thank you en bloc