and katie benner is back with us, justice department reporter for "the new york times." susan page, first things first. let's deal with this past weekend. one of the pictures that emerged is the president, shirt open, tie hanging down, hat in hand literally, making what mark knoller estimated to be his 500th flight in marine one as president. and it struck me this guy who says very little by accident, does very little in front of the cameras by accident, sometimes allows his face to tell the story. do you think in time these pictures will represent more than just a bad night in tulsa? >> yes. this was not a deliberate picture op. it wasn't a photo op that president trump arranged. this was the picture of a man who looked quite discouraged. he looked exhausted. he looked -- and he didn't really look mad, although, of course, we know from sources close to him that he was mad. he looked -- somebody said that he looked like willy loman, you know, in "death of a salesman" coming back so defeated. i think that is not an inappropriate image. >> phil rucker, he chose to ad-lib m

katie benner, thank you for helping us understand this new reporting tonight. congratulations to you and your colleagues. >> thanks. >> you know, at the start of the trump presidency, back at the start of 2017, if you had asked most americans to choose what they would have expected to befall the country by the end of just this presidential term, just by the end of this four-year term of trump being in office, how many americans would have given you this list that we are now living through, right? i mean an unemployment chart that looks like this. this is department of labor unemployment numbers going back to 1967. look at us there on the right. that's how we're living now. or economic aide lines like this one from cnbc today. u.s. gdp fell at a 5% rate in the first quarter and worse is likely on the way. gdp is negative 5% alongside rule of law headlines like that breaking news we just covered from "the new york times" with katie benner about the president getting his attorney general to interfere in apparently all criminal cases that touch on the president's i