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katie fang, thank you. >>> the republican party becoming the party of trump.ow they're reading this later. >>> folks on saturd"saturday ni live" they could not resist. >> good afternoon to you, you lying piece of human trash! >> well, thank you. i really appreciate that. >> where are you looking? i'm right here? >> oh, great. thank you. >> mr. chairman, you're right that i'm angry. i'm angry that i have to sit here through this two bit dirt bag flee circus. i'm so angry i couldn't even wear a jacket today. and you know something, mr. cohen, i've never even heard of you. >> your mother has. >> hey, hey. this is the story of john smith. not this john smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health, to provide care that's just as unique as you are. no matter what your name is. ♪ you with fidelity wealth management you get straightfor

bush, and katie fang, msnbc legal allison. let -- analyst. does this president have the capacity to attack in a frontal way, the way he does with everyone else with all kinds of real vitriol, does he have that same ability to do that to white supremacists, white nationalists, and those that, in this case, that even write a manifesto expressing outright bigotry and bias? >> no, he doesn't have the capacity or the will or the interest inidt as an ally. that we know from david duke and other organizations, white nationalists, these radical right-wing groups that have flourished over the last few years. he doesn't seem to have any interest in taking them on. we saw that first and foremost in charlottesville, right? he had an tournlt seopportunity message to these folks, and he basically made an argument that both sides were wrong. that's just unbelievable and it was such a symbolic moment for this president, who he is and who he stands for. >> he said they will fire were people on both sides. in the manifesto written by the killer, the terrorist

joining me now msnbc legal contributor katie fang and jam ill jaffer, founder of the national security institute. we should also point out, neil, you were an assent term for national security. katie, to you first here. the man who co-wrote, neil, he is citing the public's fear of a cover coverup. >> the office of legal counsel that basically issued that memorandum that has been cited all the time by people that are supporting donald trump and that are against the release of the mueller report, they state that, you know, look, the sitting president cannot be indicted, but there's no law that says that you can't basically not only indict the president, but there's no law that says that you cannot release this report. what's going to prevent the public from seeing the contents of the mueller report? we know about executive privilege. we also know about classified information. there's a secrecy and a confidentiality that surrounds grand jury proceedings, and that's exactly what robert mueller has in ermz it of the basis or foundation for the report and the investigation that is the basis o

joining me now, katy fang and criminal defense attorney ashley m merchant.ow likely is this argument? >> we know that mueller is a rule of law man. we also suspected that per that olc memo that said you should not and cannot indict a sitting president, that mueller was likely not going to go and secure an indictment against the president of the united states. i would tend to agree with that op-ed. and although me haven't had the benefit of a 400-page mueller report, excludeing exhibits, the reality is such that if mueller laid out in explicit detail the conduct of donald trump and if it's consistent with not only trump's public words, public actions, people around trump, then there could be a very strong case for obstruction of justice. the one thing, alex, that i want to point out to everybody that's listening is the following. the burden of proof in a criminal case to get a conviction against a defendant is completely different than any burden of proof you would need to be able to impeach a president. there is no burden of proof that has been set forth by

council spokesman for president obama and daniel alonso, managing director and general counsel and katie fang, msnbc legal contributor. welcome to all of you. you tweeted that it seemed as if the white house was on fire this morning. what do you make of all the tweets about john mccain? >> well, i think it's a fairly safe assumption that donald trump didn't go to church to repent for the sin tweeting out about a man who has passed away who was a patriot who served his country and died strtragically cancer. there is nothing holy left for donald trump. i don't think that it's appropriate to attack senator mccain, let alone to lie. from what we know, there was a lawsuit that was brought against buzz feed vis-a-vis this steele dossier, but mccain didn't have that information before. he didn't give it to the media. he did give it to the fbi then director comey. so those are facts and that is the truth. and anything that he's saying now, he being trump, is fake news. >> in fact, mccain did talk about it in one of his books, ned, the senator explained why he gave the dossier to the fbi in his book.