katie gorka. thank you so much for a great talk. so you trace the movement back to the sixties, but i'm curious if you think it goes back further and you look at all at the marxist roots of this, or do you think there are marxist roots to this? i wouldn't quite go there. i would distinguish two stages of the sexual revolution and obviously sexual mores were changing before the widespread adoption of the birth control pill and related devices in the early 1960s. for example, the first big argument over sex was held by the anglican communion within the anglican communion in 1930, and there are annual conference at lambeth when it was decided for the first time in the history of christianity, to make certain exceptions for artificial contraception. this is a historical point that's not well understood because there was unanimity within christendom about this question from the beginning until 1930 and the anglican communion think communion decided that in certain circumstance, as in marriage, in consultation with a pastor, etc., etc., t