katie packer, i'm going to start with you. nobody screams never trump like katie packer. >> he's our president now. >> what do you make of what we're seeing here and the different ways people are trying to get back into trump's good grasz? -- graces? >> i do hear all this talk of mitt romney coming in hat in hand. i don't see that. i don't see mitt romney actively lobbying necessarily for this job. he's talking to president-elect trump. he's offering advice and counsel. i'm sure he would be interested in a position like this because he's a guy that would be captivated by that task. but i do think you're seeing these candidates for all of these different offices, you're seeing mike pence and reince priebus' fingerprints allover thi this. i sort of shun the comparisons of reagan and trump, but i think one of the things you can compare is reagan focused on a few things that were really, really important to him, and he didn't stick his hands in every element of government, and i see this in donald trump. >> you're nod ding on that

. >> i'm joined by "time" magazine's editor in chief nancy gibbs, also katie packer, the former campaign manager for mitt romney's presidential campaign, and ed rendell, former governor of pennsylvania and an msnbc analyst. nancy, was it an honor? >> it doesn't surprise any of us, i expect, that he would treat it that way. what we always say is the person of the year is the one who has had the most influence over events of the year for better or worse. the weird thing this year is no one is really arguing that someone else had more influence over the events this year, there's agreement on that, yet there is still profound disagreement over whether it was for better or worse. the fact that he views as an honor, he talks about how often he was on the cover of "time," and sometimes it was because he was doing very well, and other times it was when his campaign seemed to be falling apart. but if he is in the school that there's no such thing as pad publicity, then of course having us note that no other figure on the world stage this year dominated it in the way that he did, i think that woul

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. >> joining me is katie packer, and msnbc contributor and also romney 2012 deputy campaign member, and bazle who is executive director of the democratic party, and a senate aide, and glad to have you both. katy, is this what the conservatives were worried about with donald trump is disavowing the initiatives of president obama and now not so clear and maybe he is coming out clearly? >> well, it is fuzzy right now admittedly and it is difficult to see what is going to happen when he is in the white house, and he prides himself on being unpredictable, and so far, he is unpredictable. >> and do the democrats take comfort in that because he is so vitriolic on the campaign trail. >> well, i don't know if comfort is the right word, but we will have to wait to see, because if you are rook loog at the picks that he has made over the past few days, any one of us believed that he was really interested in the governance and the picks for the cabinet are really, really importan important, and so we have to spend a lot of time looking at them, and the hearing a on the confirmation hearings are very

. >> katie packer, thanks. >> thanks. >> the agency that stood up to the trump administration and won more on that ahead. plus inauguration planning reaches new levels of desperation. it's tonight's thing 1, thing 2. >>> bonus thing 1, thing 2 tonight without the break in between. for the first time in decades not a single d.c. public school marching band will perform in the inaugural parade. at least one d.c. public school marching band has participated in the past five inaugural parades, but none applied for consideration this year. also, many school bands in the surrounding counties opted not to apply to participate in trump's inauguration. local universities also did not apply. and it's not just local bands. the trump inaugural committee is also reportedly having trouble finding a-list celebrities to perform at any of the inaugural events. as of today there's only one entertainer who is definitely booked to perform. that's singer jackie evancho who rose to popularity on tv. >> i have recently been asked by the president-elect to perform the national anthem for the swearing-in cere

packers. now, same system apparently was headed our way, but it appears it is moving out. katie here is a question. apparently both teams playing in the snow, both won, so maybe we could use a little snow to help our boys? >> hey, if that is what it takes, we will do it. i think eagles fans can behind that. >> we'll take it, right? >> i'll watch it from the comfort of my nice living room. but what we are finding out there, rahel, system that definitely is still active. it is bringing in some very active, new york, nothing but snow in vermont, new hampshire, massachusetts, but go in our area that's where the line gets split. so often we sit right on the dividing line where the precipitation is either f and it is because our temperature profile is just little bit miler than it will be up in the new england or up-state new york. so while you are still going to have the approach, likely to see slick travel out there from mainly just rain. it is at least moving on out of here. so, let's take a look at the temperature outlook. chill starting to set until for us here, as we look ahead