kennedy: katie pavlich, joe devito joins us and "reason" magazine editor matt welch. katie, i'm going to start with you. it seems as though obamacare has been through its own shakespearean tragedy from being well received to being wildly unpopular. but now you are saying people don't want it to die. >> it's popular on the campaign trail to say republicans are going to repeal obamacare. but it's like congress. when you poll congress as a whole, they poll very low. but if you ask about your individual congressman, they poll hh. if you ask about t specifics in obamacare, what about the 26-year-old staying on their parents' insurance. what about mandating people into this so we have enough money to fund these other goodies. there are a lot of people in the country that claim they want repeal. but when you get into the details of what that means, they don't want it to go away. kennedy: how has this new strain of populism inserted itself into this replacement bill? >> they had six years to work on this and they spent that time doing the cheap crack of we are going to shut do

katie pavlich with me, fox contributor. boy, we have -- is it a tiny civil war or how would you call it? >> it's say it's an interesting misplaced civil war. there's a number of moderate republicans publicly coming out against the bill. >> do we know the final numbers, katie, what they're looking like, that i've heard everything that was short and others saying it was 20 short. >> they had about 35 votes against the bill. i think they're pretty far off. in terms of the freedom caucus, there's some discussion on the hill that is interesting. congressman labrador, who is part of the freedom caucus, responded to the president's trump. he said look, remember who your friends are. on the campaign trail, the freedom caucus stood up for candidate trump when paul ryan disinvited him from the rally. now the white house is blaming the conservatives on the hill. >> neil: and that's a change. right after the president was saying, all good people, they're friends of mine. they vote their conscious. and now he's sending out a clear direc

doug mckelway joins us with brand-new information, and katie pavlich and michelle here to ... ... ...> martha: get to the latest from the hill moments ago, mick mulvaney, the man that president trump has loudly tasked with running point on repeal and replace just told house republicans a moment ago that the president is done with the negotiating and he wants a vote on this bill tomorrow. he has said basically, he is a master negotiator, he has been working this very hard, been extremely involved in this process, but he says he is done and devote will be tomorrow. we will keep you posted on new developments paid also tonight, new outrage over a case we have been bringing you all week, the alleged rape of a 14-year-old girl. they are growing demands for answers as to why these two suspects who reports suggest were both illegal immigrants were allowed not only to remain in the united states but to enroll as freshmen in a public high school. but even amid all of the controversy surrounding this, some lawmakers there have been pushing legislation to make maryland a sanctuary state. foxes d

katie pavlich for her analysis. later at 3:00 mike pompeo will meet with the president and on the agenda, immigration and the leaks. >> shannon: to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. we're not going to get read from that i don't think not much. all right. well, this is a top story of the day, house lawmakers burning the midnight oil and a marathon session continuing on capitol hill starting at 10:30 am yesterday and a republican working on the bill just stepped out to join us. house majority whip steve scalise is next. >> bill: and a new report that the number of those illegally entering the u.s. is dropping and dropping fast. we'll tell you what we know about that. >> shannon: and marines officially on the ground in syria as the trump administration ramps up efforts and retired general king is here. >> we'll work with our allies to extinguish this vile enemy from our planet. ( ♪ ) i moved upstate because i was interested in building a career. i came to ibm to manage global clients and big data. but i found so mu

we know our value, and we know that america doesn't function without us. >> shannon: katie pavlich isews editor at town hall.com, and kathy arue is a liberal editor. good to have you both with us. all right, kathy, i want to start with you. is this more about promoting and celebrating women, or is this more of a continuation of the women's march which was clearly, and washington, about saying, this is not our presidents, we want nothing to do with him. >> it is a continuation of the women's march. they did say this is the fourth-largest event that they are planning, 4 out of 10 events in the first 100 days of trump's presidency, to protest him and his stance on women and what he has done for women, which isn't much, and what we expect from him isn't much, and by putting betsy devos in office, it is hurting teachers. many teachers have already taken to the streets and are protesting. process team trump and betsy devos and the record so far. it is a protest. >> shannon: katie? your reaction 20 saturday? >> it is hard to take the line about betsy devos seriously when hundreds of teachers

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here with mark, katie pavlich, townhall.com editor. michele jawando, the legal progress vice president at the center for american progress. thank you for being here. welcome, ladies. it struck me again when i listen to president trump last night, katie, i want to start with you. it was revealing her thought that he said, i didn't want us to have a second order in the first place, i wanted to stick with a first order. he ends up in the same place, perhaps he was perturbed with someone who urged him, we have to rewrite this one, we have to try again. he wanted to stick with the original version. he wants this to go to the supreme court. >> after the first order was struck down, the administration repeatedly said from the white house that they were going to fight this and appeal the first decision. then, the advisors got involved and said we should just issue another one, the court fight, first for the reason of expanding past the 90 day temporary. mack. second, they thought that they would lose based on the arguments made in the first ti

katie pavlich here to debate. definitely doesn't have that...an leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. to take advantage of this offer on a volvo s90, visit your local dealer. >> shannon: reaction to today's day without women protests, what some are calling the, women skipping work and in some parts leading to school closures to point how much they are needed. today quickly devolved from celebrating women to bashing president trump. >> trump does not have respect for women! but he also doesn't know the power of women. we know our value, and we know that america doesn't function without us. >> shannon: katie pavlich is a news editor at town hall.com, and kathy arue is a liberal editor. good to have you both with us. all right, kathy, i want to start with you. is this more about pro

katie pavlich, editor of townhall.com and the columnist for the daily beast. how should the media treat these tweets? >> to figure out what he said and why he said what he said. what was it that made donald trump tweet. he said just found out. when did he find out and what did he find out. howie: it seems murky. i think the media's position will be he's trying to distract from the sessions. >> the president talking about a specific incident, when did he find out, just now. but it's important for the media to talk about it in terms of when did this ham. there are reports of a request to go into trump tower and observe a server there. but they need to reminds the american people what the obama administration did. if the obama justice department collected phone calls and emails of reports and news executives. and they went after tea party groups. but president obama has the obligation to provide proof. if he's going to make such a staunch accusation. howie: the president was apparently spurred by a long in monologue in "breitbart," and that seems to be why he wen

katie pavlich, editor of townhall.com and the columnist for the daily beast. how should the media treat these tweets? >> to figure out what he said and why he said what he said. what was it that made donald trump tweet. he said just found out. when did he find out and what did he find out. howie: it seems murky. i think the media's position will be he's trying to distract from the sessions. >> the president talking about a specific incident, when did he find out, just now. but it's important for the media to talk about it in terms of when did this ham. there are reports of a request to go into trump tower and observe a server there. but they need to reminds the american people what the obama administration did. if the obama justice department collected phone calls and emails of reports and news executives. and they went after tea party groups. but president obama has the obligation to provide proof. if he's going to make such a staunch accusation. howie: the president was apparently spurred by a long in monologue in "breitbart," and that seems to be why he wen

. >> shannon: for more on jared kushner's growing role katie pavlich is a fox news contributor. many say it's nepotism run amok and don't like the fact that ivanka has space in the left wing but clearly the president is comfortable with this and has a plan. >> with what jared kushner will be doing lines up with what the trump administration said they'd do. 60% of americans believe government is too expansive and power. and that is over decades that the government involved in where they should hand off to the private sector. there's $125 billion in government waste just in improper payments alone. for jared kushner who has a lot of government experience -- not government experience, excuse me, business experience, to say let's look at this from a special angle and work with congress to get rid of duplicative programs especially when it comes to working with the va and veterans i think it's a good thing to cut down government which 60% of the country believes is too big. >> shannon: we know how washington works. how much resistance do you think he'll face with the federal unions.

joining us now from boston, mary anne, and from washington, katie pavlich. do you know what the definition of triggering his? >> i do know what the definition of triggering as. i looked it up in the dictionar dictionary, triggering happens when someone reads, sees come or hear something that causes a person emotional distress, specifically around a previous traumatic experience. but the word triggering as used on college campus, apparently in canada and in the united states, two ban things that people simply don't like, or that they don't agree with, really, i think that using trigger warnings or using triggering as an excuse is just a way to shirk the responsibility. >> bill: a way to shut down stuff you don't like. this entire program, mary anne, is a trigger. it should be "the triggering factor." >> always. >> bill: now, the scale is gone at carlson university. and you say? >> you can always put this part in the paperback addiction. i think it coincides seemingly with a growing intolerance that many people have about a lot of things. rather than dealing w

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charles lane, katie pavlich, chris stirewalt, editor here at fox news. katie, your thoughts. some people are saying heads are exploding and people are going way over on it and others are saying wait a second. maybe he didn't tell the truth in that statement. >> heads exploding seems to be a normal practice when it comes to responding to stories about russian president trump. the white house is putting out more information about the meetings with the russian ambassador to try and show this the normal process that took place during the transition with members of the campaign. part of a normal way to reach new relations with russia. when you look at the details of the question senator franken asked, he himself keeps saying this is brand-new information. if this is true, if there is evidence, so far, after months of reporting on this issue, we have seen no evidence that there's any wrongdoing. these seem like normal meetings. there is information about meetings held and yes, maybe some of them weren't disclosed but there is no information about wrongdoing and these seem to be nor

joining us from now, mary ann marsh and katie pavlich. get into this, i wanted to find that what the federal government is now asking, every jurisdiction, if they arrest an illegal alien, to let i.c.e. know. if i.c.e. then sends back a detainer, please hold that person so we can pick them up, that happened. that is it. that is what the trump administration is asking. but austin, texas, says, blinking you, we are not going to do it. end of the state of texas takes a million and a half dollars away from that county come okay, right off the bat. so, this is getting to be a big mess, katie, is that not? >> we have tolerated sanctuary cities for a long time under republican presidents and democrats and i think that attorney general jeff sessions better be real about his threats and if they are going to pull funding from sanctuary cities, they better not be bluffing. they should go and into it, they should do more raids. as you pointed out, they are not asking for a whole lot. i.c.e. specifically is asking for local law enforcement to hold ille

reporter for the young turks, editor at town hall and fox news contributor and cowboy boot lady, katie pavlichncoln's top hat podcast, ben brenberg. if we're going to get a true bipartisan look-see into what happened during the election, we're going to get it from senators burr and warner. is that right -- >> yeah. yesterday when they announced what they're going to do with this investigation, they made it very clear they trust each other. there wasn't a a lot of partisan back and forth. they started by saying we trust each other, we also trust the members here. they've dedicated seven full-time staffers the looking through what they said an unprecedented amount of information. and so they're calming it down. the house is always, you know, no to have yously a little crazier than the senate is, and i'm glad to see they're moving forward in a nonpolitical way because the bottom line is there has been a lot of political talk around russia. but russia attacks everyone. marco rubio came out today and said, and said, look, my office was also attacked during the summer of 2016 by the russians, and so

had to go to the hospital.m bos, marion marsh, from washington, katie pavlich.ect this to get worse, don't you? >> i expected to get worse because there haven't been a lot of consequences for the actions of the "protesters," really, they are violent rioters. what we saw with mr. murray is completely unacceptable. not only did they shout him down at his speech but they pulled the hair of one of the professors who dared to show up with him on stage. severely injuring her neck. if you read his account of this commode you can find at aei.org, you will find that it was a terrifying experience of getting pushed through a mob. they were trying to leave campus, and the mob was surrounding their vehicle, knocking down the windows. we have a choice. the administration has a choice. they can either punish the hundreds of students who engaged in the bad behavior or they can let it keep going on. the professors who also encourage the students should be in trouble, too. >> bill: absolutely. here, mary anne, a statement i got from lori patton, the president of middlebury. ed s

"town hall" editor, katie pavlich.y of those youngsters, four in 10 of 30 and under have a favorable view of socialism? what is going on? >> in the millenial generation, six in 10. there are more millenials, america's largest generation, 90 million strong who believe socialism is a favorable economic system than capitalism, the free market. the problem they don't really know what that means. they enjoy the benefits of free market capitalism yet they promote socialism in a way they don't really understand. i'm on college campuses all the time when i ask simple questions to students promoting socialism. do you like your iphone? do you like choosing what kind of shoes you wear every day? do you like the choice of being an individual making your own decisions how you want to live, the answer is always yes which of course doesn't really compute with being a proper steward of socialism. stuart: take this premise further. my premise is that bernie sanders is the idealogical force within the democratic party. i said he may wel

"town hall" editor katie pavlich is with me now.out the what i had to say the president won in those states which freedom caucus people belong to. i think that gives him enormous leverage, doesn't it? >> i think it depends. the freed dome caucus was put into power before president trump was put into power. it was put into the power by the tea party movement working very hard going door-to-door to get can ditz who could win to repeal obamacare. they went through a lot. they were targeted by the irs. they, wait it out in the cold and had a bunch of different rallies to get millions of people involved in their local community to change this around. i think president trump has leverage in some ways, but if he promised on the campaign trail to repeal obamacare in full, and final bill, not the bill now, but the final bill doesn't actually do that i think he also is going to have a problem. stuart: i'm not so sure i agree with that. i can not he see a freedom caucus member stopping the repeal or reform of obamacare, holding up the entire l