okay, that's uncalled for. >>> neal katyal and katie phang are back with me. about kind of how things looked in the courtroom, katie, because we were just talking about this off set. and neal, i want to bring you in on this too. you said you wished cameras were in the courtroom. sitting in that courtroom, one of the things that really struck me was how alone donald trump looked, sitting there with that back bench behind him empty and the secret service in the one behind him, but no family there, no supporters there. he looked smaller. he looked less like the sort of big important man that he pretends to be. and it almost feels like the court system in some ways is protecting him from that image by allowing him to walk out to cameras and project whatever image he wants to project. katie, you first, and then neal. >> it's -- i struggle because i think in a blanket way you need to have cameras. i think sunshine is the best disinfectant, and transparency is what the american public always deserves because you need to be able to see the hypocrisy going on. for examp

katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show here on msnbc, and renato mariotti, former federal prosecutor. thank you for joining me. this is fantastic. i'm going to start with this. katie, this is just a general question that non-lawyers like me who lived through the o.j. trial, it immediately occur to me given the concerns we have about safety. is there a possibility these jurors could be sequestered? because it seems to me this question of keeping their identity safe and having the reporters not say, well, he had glasses and she was this color and that color. it seems to me that sequestering the jury might be the safest thing. is that a possibility in this case? >> i don't think it's a possibility at this point. could judge merchan do it as a remedy because things get worse? sure, but part of the complicatingish sue is when you're going through a jury selection process, when you do have the intentions of sequestering a jury, that is part of the analysis in the perspective juror's mind as to whether or not they can commit to sit in service on a jury like this trial. so

i will keep you >>> "the katie phang show" begins right now. >> i am katie phang. live from telemundo studios in miami, florida. here is the week that was. this morning in new york city, history in the making with jury selection beginning in the first criminal trial against donald trump. one juror who was dismissed described it as a surreal selection process. >> it is like, oh, this is just another guy and also he sees me talking about him, which is bizarre. >>> my predecessor promised infrastructure week, after week, after week for four years, and never built a thing. nothing. >>> is really forces striking back, targeting a military base near a nuclear plant. retaliation for 's attack this weekend. that is more than 300 drones and missiles launched at israel. >>> speaker mike johnson preparing to defy his most conservative house colleagues and called votes on a series of eight packages for israel, taiwan, and ukraine. this, despite worries that some may try to remove him from his speakership. >> i am not resigning and in my view, it is an absurd motion that someon

. >> and joining us now is the legal contributor, host of the katie phang show, katie phang. katie. trump has had three efforts to delay the start of this trial rejected in the first three days of this week. are you surprised by the amount of time that they're putting into trying to delay the trial instead of preparing? >> no, i am not, and i think it's indicative of how donald trump has been, frankly, ana, to delay the beginning of this trial. as you know, we've been following all of his criminal cases very closely. delay is the common denominator for donald trump in all of his criminal cases, but i said a few days ago that eventually the judicial system, the wheels of justice, they may turn too slowly for most of our collective taste, but eventually it will actually come to a true beginning when it comes to accountability for any and all criminal defendants, and that's really the important point, right, ana? donald trump is not president trump anymore. he is former president trump, but more importantly, he is just defendant trump in this case, and so jury selection will beg

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the katie phang show begins right now. >>> i'm katie phang, live from washington, d.c. here's the week that was. >> in arizona, lawmakers voted today to overturn the 1864 law that bans nearly all abortions. meanwhile, the u.s. supreme court heard arguments on whether a near-total abortion ban in idaho violates federal lab. >>> a growing number of protests forming over the ongoing war in the middle east at campuses across the country. >> the movement has never been bigger than it is right now. >>> new american weapons are finally on the way after president biden signed the nearly $100 billion foreign aid package. >> it will make america safer, it will make the world safer. >>> in arizona, where a state grand jury indicted 11 republican officials wednesday for their unsuccessful ploy to a ward of the state electoral votes to mr. trent, despite his collection loss to president biden. >>> liberal justices expressed concerns about a president having total immunity. >> i'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office and you know the seat of crim

. >>> i am katie phang. live from msnbc headquarters in new york city. >>> seven world central kitchen aid workers were killed in israeli strakes on monday. >> among the people that died were my friends. >>> this is the moment the earthquake hit, a magnitude 7.4, according to the u.s. estimates, the most powerful quake to strike taiwan in a quarter centuries. >> this morning, there was a g, 4.8 magnitude earthquake that struck the northeast, felt from philadelphia to boston, especially in new york. have a lot of reactions including this one from the empire state building, which wrote "i am fine." we have yet to hear from the statue of liberty. we hope and pray she is well. >>> yesterday, judge rejecting trump's motion to delay the trial until the supreme court un hears his presidential immunity claim. >>> closely watched abortion rulings late today by florida supreme court. the florida majority supreme panel opening the door for a ban on abortions after a six weeks of pregnancy. in a separate ruling, the cou

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joining me now, msnbc's katie phang.nd founder of trial methods, alan tuerkheimer, tristan snell is back with me. what do we know about jury consultants? >> we do are reporting that the trump defense team in this particular trial has been using a jury consulting firm out of philadelphia. interestingly, chris, that jury consulting firm was used in the second defamation trial that was brought by writer e. jean carroll against donald trump, and we all know that the verdict in that was a whopping multimillion dollar one. but the jury consultants in this case depending on their retention agreement with their client can start from the very beginning meaning before the jurors are even brought in in terms of the potential veneer ray, meaning from day one of their retention, they sit down and consider what would be the profile for the perfect juror in this case considering all the issues, considering their personalities, considering all the parties, considering all the lawyers. i mean, it's a perfectly choreographed information a

rachel maddow at msnbc headquarters along with my colleagues chris hayes, lawrence all dollar , katie phang. katie was sick the arguments. thank you. we know you at home are a real person with a real life and you may not have been able to follow the proceedings in real time. it's our jobs to cover these things and it was hard for us to cover this all at once. we did know it was coming and we prefer it and delegated. we listen to things at 1.5 speed. we skipped lunch and dinner but we got it for you, and for us. it's our prime time recap of today's events. there is a lot to get to. we will jump in and we will start with the supreme court. former president trump claiming he is immune from prosecution from all and any crimes he committed while serving as president. it is a claim so audacious, it was widely perceived to be a shocking hail mary when his defense first proposed it. the federal court the first heard this claim just overhand smashed it. ruling against him comprehensively in words that were designed to be set to music, basically. , quote, this court cannot conclude that our constitut

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and also katie phang host saturdays at noon here on msnbc. so what can we expect at today's hearing in the classified documents case? >> reporter: good morning. typically these have been all about donald trump. he has been attending them and when he does there is a strong of supporters usually on the street behind me. today he is not here. some about the supporting cast respect the two co-defendants, his employees walt ngata the valet and also the property manager, both accused of conspiring to obstruct justice, specifically to attempt to delete video footage that showed mr. ngata moving boxes. today their lawyers will argue that anywhere charges should be dismissed because they were not aware of a pending criminal investigation and they were not fully aware of the significance of what was in those boxes. and therefore they couldn't have committed the crimes. jack smith's attorneys, special counsel's office will argue that that is really a fact question, not a legal question and that motions to dismiss are about whether the law appies to the

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and remember, you can catch the katie phang show saturdays at 12:00 eastern on msnbc. across the networks of msnbc, thank you for staying up late. see you this weekend. >>> the ex-president of the united states. two american courtrooms. facing criminal trial in one. >> i'm going to go in now and sit in front of a case. >> reporter: and making a desperate case to avoid justice in

donald trump is actively writing on pieces of paper per our laura jarrett and katie phang and passingttorneys, one who is reading them and putting them in his jacket pocket. they're preparing to deliver their opening statements right after the prosecution concludes here. but also inside of the courtroom, alvin bragg is sitting in the first row, the district attorney. he was not in the courtroom during jury selection. trump's seen your aide, jason miller is also inside the room. our laura jarrett also explains matthew colangelo, explaining confidently, relaxed, hands in pockets. he knows the facts. trump, meanwhile, sitting virtually emotionless as prosecutors begin these opening statements. this is just the beginning for donald trump. he's hearing for the first time exactly what this prosecution intends to bring forward to the jury and the types of witnesses he can anticipate hearing from in the days and weeks ahead. >> maya, what do you think colangelo's most important point in his mind is right now? >> i think it's pattern, pattern, pattern. pattern of behavior, that's what we're he

i think i will quote from the great katie phang on this.and pay for a client's payments to some person. that literally never happens. it is so suspicious. the claim that trump's lawyer is trying to make is that did it on his own. call me silly, but that is not all plausible. i think they have the spaghetti strategy going of just anything, a bogus claim about the law, a bogus claim about the facts that works on tv did -- does not work in a regular court of law with the solemn procedures and a panel jury that just wants to listen to evidence. >> rachel is not here but i will say this thing that she said. a jury will not have a legal sophistication that the three of you have they will have the common sense that we all have. he sort of seemed this with stormy daniels well. if you are trump's lawyer and you aren't impugning michael cohen. he did not have the -- with -- michael cohen also spent his money and went to jail because of its. there is a common sense gut check that seems to have caught up with the story that they were trying to tell the

and remember, you can catch the katie phang show saturdays at 12:00 eastern on msnbc. for all of our colleagues across the networks of msnbc, thank you for staying up late. see you this weekend. >>> the ex-president of the united states. two american courtrooms. facing criminal trial in one. >> i'm going to go in now and sit in front of a case. >> reporter: and making a desperate case to avoid justice in the other. >> we will hear argument this morning in case 23-939. trump versus the united states. >> reporter: tonight, new testimony of the alleged criminal conspiracy to help elect donald trump. >> trump turned to the business at hand and asked david pecker how is our girl. >> as his argument for absolute immunity finally goes before the supreme court. >> this court has never recognized absolute criminal immunity for any public official. >> a private attorney to spearhead his challenges to the election results. >> what was up with the pardon for president nixon? if everybody thought that presidents couldn't be prosecuted what was that about? >> if it fails completely

we were joking earlier with katie filling. -- phang. i like the idea that i will call your manager. >> the next question really is, what will jack smith do? because a judge was saying something where she is kept the door open to continuing down the struck. and he has to do something. will be too late? >> i think he stays the course. he makes his arguments and pushes for rulings. i would not go as far to say incompetence. it is not a reason to recuse. >> where do you fall on this? between two legal analyst i turn to all of the time which side are you on? stay the course or get a recuse? he wants a recuse but i don't think you can do it yet. you have the jury instruction debacle on her interpretation of the records act is erroneous. she did not issue a final order on jury instructions and there is nothing to appeal. she wants him to engage in discussing this. a motion to eliminate would prevent donald trump from using the defense at trial putting it into jury instructions. if judge cannon rules against the motion and then he gets in remov