hello, i'm katie razzall. and i'm ros atkins. the narrative around ai. of the cost of the likes of chatgpt, and that's sent ripples through silicon valley and raised in the west. and it released a new ai model earlier this month it says that it is competitive with some of the leading us so we're talking about, you know, a model that can of companies like openai. so this was a game—changer, set off a frenzy, both but what did you make of the way it was chinese tech is catching up. in the us, in europe, in the uk, to say, "yes, but has there been, do you think, enough scepticism on what deepseek claims it's done? i mean, tech founder palmer luckey told fox news, "useful idiots in the us media" "have fallen for chinese different media landscape in china, there's still a lot of mystery about deepseek. so almost every assumption about deepseek me and my colleagues recently reported that we know, and there is reporting about deep seek in that way. bubble that has obviously been growing for some time in some quarters