reporting on this story for us a little bit earlier was -- we can bring in katie roof, bloomberg newsr, who broke this story earlier about bumble. give us a little sense about what bumble will be valued at here. >> great to be with you. we are hearing they are expecting to be valued between $6 billion and $8 billion and they go public. this is bumble, the parent company which includes the popular dating app and some other dating and social apps they have in europe and russia. so, they are planning to go public early next year and they are talking to bankers right now. joe: why go public? one of the questions we are asking is, is there some quality difference between the companies that choose to go that spac versus the companies that choose to go the traditional ipo route? we know that dating absurd doing extremely well businesswise. if you look at match's performance, x ordinary. is bumble in the same category of a company absolutely killing it? >> yes, sources say they have done better in the pandemic. , as you can imagine, it is hard for people to meet organically at bars and other