politifact deputy katie sanders is back.n bucks during clinton's state department tenure. >> when you ran the state department, $6 billion was missing. how do you miss $6 billion? you ran the state department. $6 billion was either stolen. they don't know. it's gone. >> katie, is that true? $6 billion is a humongous number. >> it is a big number but trump got the facts on this really wrong so we rated this statement pants on fire, our very worst rating. what the state department inspector general said they were mismanaged up to $6 billion and had to clarify after some media wrongly reported the result and said that does not mean the money itself disappeared. certainly, they didn't say it was stolen. it was just the contracts were poorly documented. >> i agree with you. having pants on fire would be the absolute worst. katie sanders from politifact. thank you for joining me. you are watching msnbc. this is the place for politics. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doe

politifact looked to see if trump's stance was still the same today. sot katie sanders/politifact.co m @ 3:47 ((when you compare his position back then to where he is now, tim kaine is leaving out a lot of extra information)) politifact says trump once did support privatization and called social security a ponzi scheme. but now, trump says he supports keeping the structure of the social security pr is... rating tim kaine's claim as ... mostly false. sot pence/kaine exchange from debate @ 1:07:30 ((kaine: more nations should get nuclear weapons, try to defend that. he never said that senator)) mike pence spending a good part of the evening defending donald trump's past remarks....including one where trump said more countries should have nuclear weapons. mike pence saying his running mate never said that. politifact says not so fast! sot katie sanders @ 5:35 ((there's an element of truth in what mike pence said that proliferation but as tim kaine has pointed out he has made a lot of comments that suggest he thinks japan and south korea should be able to defend themselves

politifact went digging to see if trump is right. sot katie sanders/politifact.co m @ 2:18 ((it wasn't a huge concrete tall, long wall that proposed but it's more like a fence. there would be some gaps)) trump's proposed "wall" would be concrete, at least 35 feet high, and stretch close to 1000 miles. politifact finding since clinton did vote for a barrier fence but not exactly the wall trump envisions.. rating trump's debate claim as... half true. sot clinton from debate @ 25:42 (("he used undocumented labor clinton hitting back minutes later during the debate with that claim. clinton said her immigration plan would bring undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and protect them from employers like trump. sot katie sanders/politifact.co m @ :51 ((we found that he hired a contractor that in turn employed 200 or so polish workers who were not documented citizens)) records show an out-of-court settlement followed. questions remain as to how involved trump was in the construction process and hiring of the 200 polish laborers.. undocumented labor helped

here to discuss and debunk any myths, katy sanders is the deputy editor of "politifact" and chris ashblican campaign lawyer. katy, i want to start with you. let's get the facts on voter fraud. you have looked into this. what have you found about whether or not voter fraud exists? >> voter fraud is rare. this is not what you've heard from donald trump this week or even a few months ago when he said a similar claim. but unlike what he said, voter fraud is compeexceedingly rare there are multiple studies backing up that fact. we rated what he said pants on fire, which is our worst rating for statements made by politicians. >> and that's because what you found is there's only isolated incidents and that it's so rare that it was pants on fire? why did you go to that extreme? >> well, he said it's happening on a large scale on and before election day. and there's just no evidence to back that up. when we contacted the campaign, they sent us a few reports about sloppy bookkeeping on the part of local election supervisors who have had people on the ballot rolls who have died. but it's not hap