privileged circumstances turned to radical activity, so i'm going to leave it to institutions like katoand my former home brookings and csis to deliver more information on this, vitally important issue. we certainly have an awful lot of people working on it and our intelligence communities and it's becoming quite an industry within academia and not a minute too soon i would say. we really do need a lot more enlightened on this issue. anyway. >> thank you very much. can everyone join me please and thinking ambassador benjamin. [applause] >> thank you >>> more now on the negotiations over health care on capitol hill. our guest on washington journal democratic representative jan schakowsky of illinois. >> host: jan schakowsky democrat from illinois, and district we are talking primarily here about health care and woke up, congresswoman, to this story in roll call posted last night, charlie rangel had a ways and means it healthcare talks are stalled and facing, quote, serious problems not likely to have a final bill until february. in your view well are the serious problems if there are any