perhaps i can open with minister kato. you gave a very clear and very principled japanese government's position on diplomacy with north korea. i'm wondering what role there is for diplomacy now. clearly the north korean side has done nothing but provocations and has been dishonest and far from forthcoming with respect to the fate and disposition of those abducted. is diplomacy with north korea on hold? is there a point at which direct negotiations make sense? i understand why the diplomacy is not moving now but one of the circumstances -- what would the strategy be for diplomatic efforts directly with north korea in the future? what would the environment have to look like for that to be possible? >> translator: what kind of response on the diplomatic front? that was the question. nuclear development and missile launch by north korea is being done and of course japan as well as the united states and the united nations all have decided on harsh sanctions, but be it the u.n. resolution, one of the major basis of these sanctio

japan's abduction minister kato said international cooperation is essentially in urging north korea to act sincerely. >> translator: after years of waiting the abductees and their families are getting older. kell with afford no more dli. >>> u.n. special darusman said the leaders would not be able to evade responsibility of the situation in the north. >> the government of the cannot profess ignorance of what is happening in the country. >> he announced he'll set up a panel of experts to pursue legal accountability for human rights violations in north korea, including abductions of foreign nationals. >>> people are trying to piece their lives back together but the ground is still shaking. the sun came out on wednesday. >> it's hot. >> i'm drinking lots of water. >> volunteers are working outdoors in the blazing heat. >> it's sweaty work and i have to be careful about heat stroke. >> officials say the quakes damaged more than 25,000 houses. people have been is a using tarps to cover broken roofs, but the strong winds are blowing them away. the police say thieves have begun taking advanta

now, cnn has obtained audio of a senior level campaign aide, joan kato, met with supporters, bernie supporterson and made it very clear that she wanted bernie sanders supporters to really take it to the party leadership. >> you should not leave. i'm going to repeat that. unless you are told by somebody from the campaign, i.e., probably me or david that you can leave, you should not leave. i don't care if the chair's up there herself or whoever the chair is, whoever becomes the chair, you should not leave. >> now, the bernie sanders campaign says that they do not condone any violence whatsoever but some sanders supporters actually posted the phone number and address of the state party chairwoman, roberta lang, and afterwards she was flooded with phone calls, even death threats to her voice mail, text messages, too, targeting both her and her family. this is the kind of thing that worries democratic leaders as we start talking about the philadelphia convention, wolf. >> i heard some of those recordings, those death threats, pretty ominous. how concerned are party leaders if this is just a previe

kato: - [through translator] in relations to the sections that have been recently decided upon, they have to be also coordinating with us in terms of sanction or else the effectiveness will be limited in terms of trade between north korea and china. the volume of trade between giant and wees is assume that the amount of funds flowing between those two countries is quite significant. in terms of imposing economic influence to north korea, we have to have china coordinate with ourselves and in the u.n. resolution there was cooperation with the united states and with the leadership of the united states, we were able to get china on our side. so that's what we need to have more of. japan is no position to talk about the administration, for example in the united states, in the united states the north korea sanction and policy was passed. so it means that each country as well as the international community must be united and thinking that all consensus is on the rise. regardless of which choice the americans take on the next administration, i think there is already a strong platform on thi

they were responsible for the that but cnn has obtained audio of a top bernie sanders official joan katoking to bernie sanders supporters before this -- before this convention on saturday urging them to really take a firm line against the party leadership. >> you should not leave. i'm going to repeat that. unless you are told by somebody from the campaign, ie probably me or david, that you can leave, you should not leave. i don't care if the chair is up there herself or whoever the chair is and become -- whoever becomes the chair, you should not leave. >> now, one person who did speak at that convention, barbara boxer on behalf of hillary clinton's campaign. cursing, vile comments, references to the female anatomy. really crude gestures that she said i got to a chance to talk to her about it and she said to say they were disrespectful doesn't really do justice to what happened to her and not experienced anything like this before and other democratic senators told me something similar. dianne feinstein said that she is that bernie sanders should drop out after june 7th. democratic party,

kato institute hosted a discussion with former petroleum geologist who talked about technological improvementshat have been made in exploration. this is about 1:10. one hour and ten minutes. >>> good afternoon. i'm pat michaels, director of the center for science at the cato institute. one of the things we look at are influences of government support and government policy on the united states and global science. one of the areas we are interested in, of course, are the areas of energy and natural resources. when the center started up, people asked, well, who are you going to get to work in this interdisciplinary center? i said, this is such an unusual idea that we have that if we build it, people will come. and ned ma'mula is an example o that. he had been reading cato science for years. one day he said, can i come and talk to you. then i realized we had just found a remarkable person to essentially volunteer to start working with us. he's a scientist, 30 years experience in minerals. he's been with several very prestigious federal agencies including u.s. geological survey, department of energ

let's hear now from clinton adviser jean sperling and also with us is formerly with kato and aei. to both of you to "power lunch" mr. sperling, let me ask you since we're a business network, what mrs. clinton's tax plans specifically would do to the corporate tax rate? i realize that lots of corporations mae complain about the rates don't pay the full rate but some do and it bears on american businesses competitiveness, where they locate, where they locate jobs. that's question one. and question two, what would she do about profits held overseas to avoid u.s. tax? >> well secretary clinton put out a lot detailed proposals in the area of corporate taxes where she put the greatest focus is on reorienting and reforming the tax code so that there is a greater incentive to create jobs in the united states and there is more of a disincentive to move jobs and profits to simply -- for tax avoidance purposes. she put out a detailed proposal on an exit tax. she called for the treasury department to crack down on inversions and earnings tripping. and on the other hand, she also put forward a

our infrastructure as a d-plus and with us also is chris edwards, director of tax policies at the katonstitute and he's testified before congress on funding highways and bridges. >> all right, greg, your group estimates we need to invest $3.6 trillion in infrastructure within six years but we're allocating a tenth of that in the 2017 budget for our so-called 21st century transportation system. how short of funds are we? >> well, thank you, you're absolutely right. since 1998 asce has been doing a report card on the condition of america's infrastructure and we cover 16 broad categories, and our latest report card in 2013 gave our infrastructure in this country overall a grade of d-plus. like the report card you might have gotten at school though i hope it didn't look anything like our infrastructure report card. the fact is you are right. we need to spend about $3.6 trillion between now and 2025 if we're going to bring our infrastructure to a condition of "b" which is a good grade. >> a lot of money. >> but the fact is that's a lot of money and the fact is we're not prepared to do that.

joan kato seemed to be encouraging supporters to take over that event before it started.. i'm going to repeat that. unless you are told by somebody from the campaign, i.e., probably me or david that you can leave, you should not leave. i don't care if the chair is up there herself or whoever the chair is and whoever becomes the chair, you should not leave. >> so in hindsight, was that perhaps not the best thing to do? >> no. in fact, that conclusion that you came to that that somehow is taking over the convention, apparently you aren't as familiar with how these caucuses work. that is a very standard part of the process. what you don't want your people to do is leave prematurely because often there are recounts during these caucuses. and when your people leave, first you're winning and then you're losing. so that is a very standard instruction that are given to delegates at caucuses to not leave until the campaign says it's okay to go. it has nothing to do with taking over the convention. you know, that kind of conclusion about what that means, i think would only come fro