>> katrina note -- katrina showed the need for supply chain, really quickly. we have been doing a lot of supply chain with nonprofits. the wall street journal had an article that said, what went wrong and what went right? it was about a matrix, and very quickly, within two years, this started -- and they decided to start using the supply chain. in a bigger scale, in responding, first of all, the disasters are getting more serious. we are really mitigating some of the results of that. i would argue that globally, we are tremendously well prepared. in the u.s., we are tremendously well prepared for the most immediate past disaster. but we don't know what is going to happen in the next. there are some tornadoes and hurricanes that are fairly predictable. but i don't think people realize how closely we were going from disaster to catastrophe. we're used to earthquakes on the west coast. had the earthquake bed a little bit more severe on the east coast, perhaps a day later, closer to a hurricane that could have been a little bit larger, we would have gone from disa

i've been here pre-katrina, post-katrina, and i've seen a different fema.obviously, it's always a work in progress, but i'd never seen you, as an administrator, not address whatever problems you were presented with, and i thank you for that. just for the record, mr. fugate, just so the public understands that a declaration of from the presidential level is only after the state and local requirements based on some kind of request have been made. can you just kind of walk us up that chain? >> yes, sir. this goes back to under the stafford act. only the governor of the state is authorized by the president to declare a disaster declaration, and that's based upon the governor certifying that that event overwhelmed state and local capabilities. we look at impacts on a per capita basis for public assistance to determine part of that, but it's not the sole determination. it can oftentimes be based upon the significant impacts of what the trauma is to a community. in addition, we look at individual systems again. it is not based on a home owner's destruction. it is

i have been here pre-katrina, post-katrina, and i have seen a different simfema.bviously, it is always a work in progress, but i have never seen you as administrators not address whatever problem you are presented with. thank you for that. just for the record, mr. fugate, just so the public understands that a declaration from the presidential level is only after the state and local requirements, based on some kind of requests, has been made. can you kind of walk us ought that change? >> yes, sir. this goes back through -- to the stafford act. only a governor is authorized to request a disaster declaration from the president, and that is based upon the governor certifying that the event has overwhelmed state and local abilities. we look at impact on a per- capita basis to determine part of that, but it is not the sole determination. it can often times be based of the significant impact of what the trauma is to the committee. in assistance -- in addition, we look individual assistance. it is based on the overall impact of the state and the size of that state. you wi

katrina was a great example of that. actually had to close the facility in louisiana, and they immediately handle anything that we needed to do to help ourselves and the pharmacy set up a brand new pharmacy in the area that handled the medical needs. i think that is a good beginning. >> i think so, too. the vice president of global marketing and business development for the harris corp.. an international communications company that serves more than 150 companies. the principal focus is the development of wireless connectivity. >> as what tom just said, i am from harris corp., our expertise is designing, implementing, and operating complex and critical networks. we do that with federal civil programs. and we also do complex jobs such as the u.s. census. given everything i have heard, i will focus on one part, the part that as a radio communications. in that regard, there are three points that i would like to make that are shown here. communications before the disaster, it is focused on of ability. what i mean is that it h

i've been here pre-katrina, post-katrina, and i've seen a different fema. obviously, it's always a work in progress, but i've never seen you as administrator not address whatever problems you were presented with, and i thank you for that. just for the record, um, mr. fugate, just so the public understands that a declaration of, from the presidential level is only after the state and local requirements based on some kind of request have been made. can you just kind of walk us up that chain? >> yes, sir. this goes back to, um, under the stafford act only the governor of a state or a territory is authorized to request from the president a disaster declaration. and that disaster declaration is based upon the governor certifying that that event has overwhelmed state and local capabilities. we look at impacts on a per capita basis for public assistance to determine part of that, but it is not the sole determination. it can often times be based upon the significant impacts of what the trauma is to a community. in addition, we look at individual assistance. again,

i saw this firsthand, i went down to help out with katrina thing in september. it's weird. because you are dealing with people that lost everything and it's kind of hard to imagine that if you haven't done it yourself. basically, you know, she's looking at her curtains here, she probably hand-stitched those things. maybe they have been hanging there the last 5 or 6 years. everything in the house is wrecked, photos, keepsakes, it's a tough thing. and people deal with this kind of stress in different ways. we as disaster workers, we see it all the time. but we have a word we use, professional. we try to be professional around people that have suffered a loss like this because they don't want us to come -- you don't want to go into somebody's house and be joking and having a good time. it's unprofessional. when you are dealing with somebody who has a loss like this, just think of the word professional. that's what we try to do. this sort of body language here, she's trying to comfort here, do you think she's buying it? not with that body language. she's not really buying it. s

well this actually grew out of a little rebellion that katrina and jim hightower and i. started really about a year ago. we brought together a group of. good folks earlier in the year or advocates journalists labor union folks various people would who have who recognize that the corporate power in general and citizens united decision specifically were enormous threats to any any pretense of democracy in this country and. basically we've got people campaign grew out of that meeting as you know somebody an idea that we could get. various parts of the progressive family calling together on a response to citizens united and you have a very specific budgetary it and i tom i was going to say you know at the nation immediately after that decision which we're coming on two years of we wrote an editorial called democracy in and we said with no quarter for sin a sin is cynicism or compromise this must be the battle of our times in the same way the amendment to end slavery the amendment to bring women's rights the vote women's. the right to vote as you know tom jane i we're talking

i felt -- i feel like we are like katrina.we knew the levees were not strong enough in at new orleans. we knew that the levies needed to be reinforced. in northern california, we know that, say, along the hayward fault that if it were to happen today at the level of retrofits that have been done, we will lose about 15,000 lives. in oakland, i will lose one- third of all my rental housing. there are soft story housing and other projects. for may, is to try to get monies freed up for a revolving lending pool so we can retrofit housing stock and buildings, because it only costs, on a single-family home, less than $10,000 to retrofit a home. even with the real estate crisis, you say then a quarter million dollar home on the east bay with about $10,000 worth of work. the fact that we're not mobilizing along both sides of the bay, particularly where we have stopped -- soft story buildings and multi-story units for some of the poor people and some of the high-rises for richer people is, to me, sort of waiting for another katrina to h

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, a post- katrina construct, and that was so incredibly intriguing and how they are dealing weswhich is res on what they believe of the residents that are still there, how to educate them to again live in new orleans, but i will speak at that at the next meeting. president mendoza: thank you. commissioner wynns? commissioner wynns: this past weekend, i was at the unity conference, of the latino school board members association and the coalition of black school board members. a lot of people -- they asked me about that, and i have a lot of interesting material. then i just wanted to say this, because i just got this. san francisco has been named number one in "barron's" magazine as the 10 healthiest cities for families -- in " parents" magazine. the city by the bay rose to the top of our list in part because of its gutsy move to bring healthier foods to schools. san francisco booted soda and high-calorie, empty food five years before the state did and was one of the first places in the country to push for school gardens. california's with whole grain breads debuted in 2007. now, at le

it was a horror. >> before katrina, our schools, i mean they were just failing. >> the choice was doething entirely new. >> louisiana built something new. they made it easy for people to open charters. >> you tell the state here is my plan. >> ben started a charter school called sci academy. he was the only employee. he drove his car around new orleans until 3:00 in the morning putting up signs advertising his school. >> and you see this number right here, that was my cell phone. >> he had to advertise because students had to choose to go there. they didn't just get sent here because they live nearby. >> we are putting these up everywhere. >> he went to people's houses to recruit. >> living in new orleans we never had that. >> her son reggie goes to sci academy. >> he came out and interviewed and talked to me and then talked to reggie and was explaining to him about the hours and academics and stuff. >> when the school opened only a of the students were pressurent on state tests. now, sci academy test results are among the best in the city even though the school itself is just a bunc

in new orleans after hurricane katrina hit. you went pretty well straight down there.n did you hear about it? how quickly did you realize how bad it was? >> i heard about it on -- i knew the storm was coming. and i mean, we get storms all the time in new orleans. i mean, you know, i was worried, you know, that my dad's house wouldn't lose power and thins like that, but i mean, who would have predicted that type of devastation would have occurred? i got down there -- let's see -- the day after the levee broke. that's what freaked everybody out. we grew up right there at those levees. we played on them. like a hill with a concrete barrier on the top. that was just the place we hung out. you just couldn't conceive of those levees actually breaking. but that was a mess. i mean, just unbelievable. unbelievable. it was scary. >> when you got there and saw the scale of devastation, i mean, as someone who had been born there, raised there, what was going through your mind? >> it's hard to articulate, piers. i remember going past the cemetery where my mother's buried. she's bur

to save money, katrina manalac had to move from the campus to her parents' home in the suburbs. did you want to be living why your parents in your senior ye? >> no, i did not. >> reporter: she wants to go to graduate school to become an occupational therapist-- meaning more loans and more debt. dean reynolds, cbs news, chicago. >> pelley: here's what our research department found out about the value of a college degree. the unemployment rate for high school graduates 25 and older who didn't go to college is 9.1%. but for those who have a bachelor's degree, it's just 4.8%. a coffee shop with a mission to help soldiers haunted by war. that story is next >> pelley: seattle has been called america's capital of coffee. it seems as if there's a coffee shop on every corner. but we end the broadcast at a coffee shop outside tacoma, washington, where barry petersen reports each cup comes with compassion. >> my life just wasn't the same, and i couldn't find a reason to really live any more. >> reporter: deborah flagboam is still traumatize bide a sexual assault during boot camp and needs

host: katrina vanden heuvel the editor of the nation magazine. her book a collection of essays she has written called the change i believe in joining us from new york. thanks for being with us. back again. guest: thank you, steve. host: in a couple of minutes a with presidential kid buddy roemer. at the top of the our our sunday focusing on the european debt crisis. represents from the "wall street journal" and financial times will be here to take your calls and explain what is happening. the president leaves thursday for the g-20 summit in france. first a look at other issues and guests making up the sunday morning programs that can be heard on c-span radio. good morning, nancy. >> good morning, steve. we begin at noon with the five network tv talk shoals. tongs today include the economy, and 2012 presidential campaign. we begin with "meet the press" at noon welcoming president obama's 2008 campaign manager and walter isaacson on his biography of steve jobs and jennifer granholm. at 1:00 p.m. this week has ammanpour and bill gates. 2:00 p.m. fox

was fairly arrogant after katrina as well. secondly, every disaster is different. he has a dysfunctional government. what do you do? what do you do with a dysfunctional government? every one of these are different. the u.s., we have the same arrogance after katrina. >> when you make the decision to respond to some crisis, is there a protocol? do you want to coordinate services with some other agency? delivering the maximum good for your community? what is the most glaring weakness in the chain of events, right now, as it confronts you? is there one? or does this system just not work? >> there is a sense of disaster. the tornado, the most common local, systems are pretty well in place. >> what about the scenario that you described. an earthquake on the fault line. >> it would have been chaos in the u.s.. the most serious, an earthquake in the central part of the country, it would sever the country. it would take years with rolling earthquakes in the central part. each one of these are going to be different. as we hear from communication, it is important. communicati

in katrina, we had a different challenge. given the situation on the ground, our people were not allowed to go in. one of the things that we should be thinking about is how to provide credentials to critical elements of recovery when they are needed so that they can get in and fix our stuff that is broken. that is an important point for mobility. after we brought the system back up again, the issue becomes and profitability. how does one thing talk to another fan. if you have a pc and i have an apple, those operating systems are not compatible. but they both talked to the internet. and they can talk to each other. the same central core ideas i can be applied to radio technology, and we even applied it in a backwards compatible technology holloway back to analog radio. progress has been made, how one to deliver the message that there is no. in terms of domestic public safety, it is being offered by everybody. the and dropper ability issue is a lesson, and again, if we look at the building of the right thing at the beginning, t

my name is katrina aguirre and i work for mcdonalds. my position at this time is front counter and i'm a crew member. i was unemployed for two years and i was in the position of looking for employment. i had part time jobs. i was doing waitressing for cash, money, for tips. most of the time i wasn't working. i saw one day on the news at 6:00 that they were having this big national hire day for mcdonald's and i decided to come on in and apply and the next day i got an interview and i got the position. i was really surprised because i knew there was going to be a lot of people out there applying. i love what i do. i love interacting with customers with the people. right now, i'm a crew member, but i have been looked at to be a manager. so, the doors for the opportunity have opened because my managers have faith in me. they believe in me. and actually i'll be starting my management classes and i'm going to move on from there. the advice i have is just keep trying. right now, i'm really happy that i'm stable. mcdonald's is a great place and

imagine all the people in cats surrounded by water -- katrina surrounded by water everywhere. it came by sewage plants, huge mounds of manure and chemical refineries. there were toxic sewage coming all around katrina and those people are thirsty. they will drink it. imagine your kids were sick because you didn't have a few bucks for this, or, if you have a bottle of color rocks bleach, 5 drops if it is newer, 10 if it is older. you have to wait at least half hour if it is warm after you add it. if it is cold, chilly, a couple of hours. if it is ice cold water, four hours you have to wait for the bleach to do its trick. >> nobody hat come with a desal version for sea water? >> there is, but you are talking a couple thousand versus $70. here is another really great -- water is such a critical item. this is a really great toy right here. >> where am i getting this? >> you can get it at any back country place, rei, back country supply place. you have seen the movie, men in black, right? >> yes. >> he takes his pen out and says everybody look this way, gives a click and it flashes.

. >> when the tragedy of katrina, hurricane irene hit new orleans, it really opened up the door for us because we invited the new orleans hornets to come in and make this their temporary home while they rebuilt their building, and it gave our community a chance to showcase what we crowd offer to the league and to the other teams, and it worked, and we've just been going up ever since. and this city supports the thunder like crazy. i mean, this is a football state, but right now it's also a basketball state. >> you had a study that talked about $100 plus million of economic impact when the hornets came post-katrina, and now the thunder is the same kind of economic impact. how do you replace that? >> i don't think you do replace it. that's the problem. there was a big article in our paper this week, and it talked about who is really getting hurt on this is the little guy. it's the guy that has the local bar or restaurant or some of the hoteliers on the weekends. it's the taxi drivers. it's all of these kind of people. those are the ones who are getting hurt. the direct impact for the cit