. >> techknow investigates katrina... ten years after the storm. >> during katrina, a large amount of water rushed in from the gulf. >> the walls were engineered to stop mother nature... they failed. >> do you think that new orleans is safer than 10 years ago? >> now rebuilt - higher, stronger, billions of dollars spent. new tech to predict storms. >> we'll be able to make measurements of the winds as they change very quickly. >> but is this city safe? >> do i feel 100% safe? no. >> marita davison is an environmental bioligist. >> as the waves are coming in, explain to me what's happening. >> tonight she goes inside the lab to bring the latest research that could stop the next superstorm. and i'm phil torres, i'm an entomologist. so how did katrina change the resident's attitude toward nature? now, techknow in new orleans: katrina, 10 years after. i'm here at jefferson parish at the exact spot that was submerged back in august 2005 and i'm 6 foot 2 and if i stretch my hand up to this height... triple that. that's how high

rolling stone ran about the katrina case, those who were 8, 12, 14 at the time of katrina and they saw the government didn't care, largely african-american group they talk with and what impact it had on them at the convention center, walking through the water and they all talk about the schools and the thing about school reform, the cliche you have to break some eggs to make the omelet, those first years were so traumatic. everything was changing, schools would open, schools would close, they fired on mass every teacher. so many inexperienced teachers who were not prepared to deal with these traumatized kids. i feel sympathy for the teachers. these kids were traumatized at the age of 8, 10, 12 going to experience that causes adults to break down crying. the first four, six, eight years, what people needed, neighborhood school, my kids were going there before katrina, we're back two or three years later, that wasn't the reality. neighborhood schools pretty much all charter schools and kids going to school across the city and other places. this course were finally going in the right dire

we created a new verb during katrina that his slab would. i been slab meaning my house is gone and there's nothing left but a slab. there are 20 or 25000 homes on the gulf coast that were reduced to nothing but the slab. i finish on that point but i'll tell you this, under the federal disaster law, the existing law, states, states would get seven and a half% of public assistance, individual assistance, et cetera that the federal government gave the state to do this. we get another seven a half%% of what is called hazard mitigation. under hazard mitigation program we wanted to take our money and we had twice as much coming and build a survivable, interoperable, wireless communication system. they would not let us use the money for that. they said communications didn't fit into hazard mitigation. it's about the stupidest thing i've ever heard of in my life. if you can tell people to get out of the way, you're going to save a lot of lives and a lot of property. at the end of the day, said under cochran made them move out of the hazard mitigatio

six days later, the first sunday after katrina.e or six days later after landfall in new orleans, the first sunday, a beautiful morning and then everyone went out. and then the chronology, every our 10 years later come if you want to -- spent if katrina -- what are building still been flooded or choose a people company, wasn't the decision to go, no go a week or your -- >> the families had stayed in new orleans, yes, and they're just trying to survive. some of them couldn't get back to their homes. >> thank you. >> i think the u.s. attorney jim legends, was about -- seem to be a good guy from everything i've read and know about it but could you talk a bit about vacating the verdict came wasn't his his office of? >> what happened, just to get a real quick overview is that it had been a couple of prosecutors can one who was not involved in this case, stories about police wrongdoing, and couple posters weigh in with anonymous comments. a lawyer in a related case that one of them was a prosecutor in the u.s. attorney's office. office.

how did this happen, katrina? >> you know what, tony, it's-- look. it's been 133 years since we were founded. so it is an honor to be the first. but i look at it as being someone who's been successful in the game, cares about the game, who has always given back to the game. and, with my involvement in the sport from that, being a non-profit-- organization, the harlem junior tennis and education program, working with grassroots, as i've worked my way up through the system of the usta, i've been on the board for ten years, in my 11th year now. why not me? >> what have you found? have you found it a difficult rise? have there been challenges? did you have to push on the door? or was the door kind of ajar and you were able just to sort of nudge it? what do you think? >> i don't think i had to fight for it. i was just being me. and being me is, you know, being a good listener. always understanding what needs to be done to evolve. and i've always been about evolution. 'cause a lot of people don't know who we are. they see the u.s. open; they see tournament

his new book is about hurricane katrina. has been a lot of discussion of katrina because of the anniversary. talk about why you decided to write this particular book with this particular focus on your home state of mississippi. haley: i thought the story needed to be told. the news coverage after katrina 10 years ago just reminded people that the news media doesn't like to cover airplanes that land safely. the terrible behavior, back at -- that gets all of the news coverage. in mississippi, you did not have that. we bore the brunt of the worst natural disaster in american history. our people got knocked down flat. it was utter obliteration. but those resilient people got right back up and went to work. not just helping themselves, but their neighbors. that is a story that was not told enough. mark: a lot of great things in the book, a lot of stories. i want you to just tell one briefly, about a young man who drove to the federal reserve in atlanta. haley: the largest bank on the coast had been through hurricanes before. all

and much sadness for jim and katrina. >> our thoughts go to jim and katrina's family. we'll bring you more details as they develop. >>> right now real housewife gets forced to hang up her dancing shoes. she wants to get back on the ballroom floor despite suffering a small stroke. our website reporter was backstage for all the dancing drama. >> i don't know if i can dance >> the producers tried everything they could keep us in the competition. >> i had a blood clot which caused a mini stroke, tia. and then i ended up being in the hospital for three days. i've not had time to even think about dancing. >> kim says doctors orders prevented her from flying from atlanta to compete with her partner tony. so she was forced to withdraw. >> the truth is, she did suffer a stroke. this is what you have to put things in perspective. health and family are number one thing. she has six kids and a husban to think about. let's face it this is a dance show. >> we're going to miss her. >> i said to kim, i sent her a tweet. i said, kim, have faith. because faith stands for this, faith sta

push and katrina pierson. katri katrina, i'll start with you. only is donald trump not a conservative, he says he's not even a republican. in your view has bush found the attack that can take down trump? >> i don't and this is why. simply because we've been hearing a lot the last few cycles about who is or isn't a republican or who is qualified to run as president and the facts remain. all we have to do is look at the history, mitt romney was pro-choice. governor rick perry endorsed jon edwards. john boehner golfs with obama. everybody has these things to toss but at the end of the day, the voters are going to decide and the last two accomplishment candidates failed miserably. >> does katrina have a point. is this a fight bush can't win? >> listen, the problem with the fight with bush right now is that donald trump supporters are post rational. they don't care. donald trump could go out tomorrow and eat a live baby on television and think it's the greatest thing in america. this is a guy who supporters are locked into him. jeb bush is doing corr

katrina ranked sixth. katrina hit a larger populated area killing an estimated 1,836 people across the gulf coast and causing $108 billion in damages. in texas, rita prompted the largest evacuation in u.s. history. the combination of severe gridlock and excessive heat led to 107 evacuation-related fatalities, according to the houston chronicle. ten years after rita, there remains signs of hope and progress. south cameron high school re- opened in 2010. the new school is 19 feet above ground, built to withstand hurricane force winds and flooding. in 2006, the south cameron memorial hospital received a two million dollar grant from the bush-clinton katrina fund. it is one of the many financial pieces of the puzzle to keep this place open. there is also renewed hope that jobs from the oil and gas industry will return. cameron parish boasts a pair of multi-billion dollar construction projects set to open over the next three years. >> sreenivasan: and finally, pope francis has landed-- in cuba. the pope visits

and i get a lot of support from hispanics that tell me we understand, katrina. we support trump because we understand that that was not what he meant to say and misconstrued by the media and others believe everything they hear and see in the media. as a hispanic woman, who has known donald trump since 2004, he is not anti-hispanics. i'm so proud of my culture. i'm so proud. i'm a cuban american. my parents came here at a very young age and i want legal immigration to work the right way and not pay for illegal immigrants and tax dollars so that they can get better health care than i can as an american. that's the point of donald trump. all of anti-hispanic stuff is just -- >> maybe, katrina, people cuban american get all of it for free under the cuban adjustment act after they come here illegally. >> first of all -- >> and set foot in the united states. >> i'm talking about -- >> can we just -- >> go ahead. >> right. people like your parents that cuban americans, many of my friends, have an advantage over other immigrants that nobody else has. there's something c

but we got katrina. despite those 5-miles-an-hour winds it was so much worse, yet these first responders adapted. they were flexible. they changed. as the first day after the storm when i flew over the coast in a helicopter, you would have told me only 238 people in mississippi would die? i would have thought that was the most optimistic polly anish, 1800 people died in louisiana. our people were just magnificent, and our local officials, governor wenner endured this as i have. mississippi is a constitutionally weak governor. but i always say doesn't mean the governor has to have a weak constitution, but the local officials decided, somebody had to be in charge, and the only logical person was the governor. and so they did one of the most unnatural acts in politics. they gave away their power. they said, we're going to follow you. we're going to follow the state. our congressional delegation, the federal government. look, the fema takes a terrible rap, deservedly for some things, like their logistical sy

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she agrees with him. >> thank you very much, charlotte. >> thank you. >>> katrina, doug and s.e.ck. melania would be a certainly unknown campaign factor. is it possible she could help him? >> yeah. putting aside a lot of the criticisms which i think are justified, you cannot say that he doesn't have a very impressive family that loves him immensely. >> that's right. >> i've met some of his children. forget about melania. if you talk to his wife before melania, she is very vocal about her support for donald trump, both as a father and as a president. this is really an incredibly tight-knit successful, impressive, well-spoken, articulate happy family considering how many marriages there were, how much money there is, how much excess there is. i can speak from experience, they are very down to earth, his children, and i think any one of them would be an excellent surrogate on the campaign trail for donald trump talking about any number of issues. >> it's interesting, katrina, i want to play what donald trump said a moment ago at this town hall about women. s.e. cupp is completely ri

joining me now is katrina pierson and mike shields, former chief of staff for the rnc that worked in the bush administration. mike, i'd like to start with you. this is a big night for jeb bush. the premiere of stephen colbert, is this a risky way to turn around a low energy image trump has been successfully promoting? >> no, i don't think so. it's a good strategy and really shows that what jeb has been doing recently has worked. he started off as what was considered to be the front runner by everyone in the campaign and we saw the trump surge and bush wanted to take him on. . media loves a fight. they decided we'll fight donald trump and show we really are someone that's a leader in the campaign and i think being the first guest on colbert's first show i think is a sign that that's kind of worked and he's out in front of the republican pact and that's a good sign for him. >> to be fair, you say it works. that's certainly not reflected in the poll numbers yet. jeb's numbers are not moving up. some polls are moving down. >> no, but what i'm saying is is this is a good strategy for him

and i think that you can back as far as hurricane irene and lessons we learned from hurricane katrina. i think that, with changes in environment, i think it's gonna affect all city agencies and how we respond with all our partners. >> just for the record, meteorologists call it superstorm sandy because, when it hit here, it wasn't necessarily a hurricane, and it was more complicated than that. you called it a hurricane. >> i think it's just terminology. i mean, yes, it was very complicated. i think that it was a changing storm the entire event, but i think that, with the lessons that we've from that, we've changed and enhanced our evacuation zones in the city. we used to have zones "a," "b," and "c." now it's a little more detailed and scientific. there's zones 1 through 6. we can order evacuations and plan more accordingly, and that was directly related to lessons we learned during sandy. >> since we have never done this before and you're gonna have public comment... when we rebuilt ground zero in lower manhattan -- and we now see what's going on there -- it took a decade, more than

that reminds me this is the 10th anniversary of katrina, and knowing that a huge disaster happens in the other counties constantly we're more than observing and engaged in those not just to help, but to take lessons learned and about rebuilding and recovery and things we have been associating ourselves with ever since katrina where mayor gavin newsome allows me and others to represent the city and we took the opportunity not only to bring lawn mowers to help certain areas, but took our time to stand in areas that were devastated and wondered how our city would prevent that from happening? and in those moments it wasn't just wishful thinking, but brought that opportunity back and that is what began a more solid resiliency plan and volunteers and people from both berkeley and harvard. that studied it from all over the country, if not the world, to see what san francisco and other places could do to anticipate better our expected challenges on both an earthquake, but also now more and more it can be the expected el nino, plus an earthquake, plus drought, plus anything else. and so this

you were the leader in your state and many parts of the region of the south after katrina. i think you rallied the people. i think the people look pretty darn good in mississippi. there you are in the field, in the rubble. they came back pretty strong along the gulf of mexico. >> the truth is i didn't rally the people. the people rallied themselves. the thing about katrina that's very undercovered, really not covered at all, is the spirit and the people of mississippi got knocked down flat, bore the brunt of the worst natural disaster in american history, utter obliteration, back up within 24 hours rebuilding their communities. not just helping themselves but helping their neighbors. the outpouring of volunteers, chris, 954,000 volunteers. >> you mentioned that people don't like washington. all right? as an idea. in your book you write about how you butted heads personally with the bush white house and members of your own party in your effort to secure more money in the aftermath of katrina. i was really upset by the lack of support from the white house -- that was the bush

before katrina, the canisters containing her embryos were moved to the second floor. flooding and without power. but a rescue mission was underway. >> i was a sergeant with the illinois conservation police. illinois put together task force illinois and offered up services to louisiana for whatever they were in need of. they told us that we have doctors and a couple nurses that we need to transport out there to get into the flooded hospital. and we need to try and recover these canisters that have frozen embryos in them. the a. liquid nitrogen that was deeping them frozen is quickly depleting, especially in this heat. and we have to get them to a facility and get them back into that cold storage. when we got to the hospital, we got to the canisters and the doctors basically looked at them and said okay they haven't been breached. they are security. so we carried them down the stairs, out through the flood waters, loaded them in our boats. and it starts to hit you. okay, we didn't just come here and pick up canisters. we came up here and picked up lives. this is 1200 po

let's go to you first, katrina. >> well, no.f you look at the recent polls, trump is beating all the democrats out there in the general election. trump is not just a caricature. he's also a businessman. he has businesses all over the world that has employed millions of people over his tenure in business. so he's more than just a character. when trump says he's going to do something, people believe that. if a bush says he's going to do something, people just roll their eyes. so there's really more going on here than just showmanship. and trump may not have this governor's conservative record, but we really get tired of those elite people telling who can and who can't be a member of the party. >> rick, i think a lot of folks at home, they see these tweets back and forth, it seems petty for a u.s. presidential election. is governor christie right when he says that the two of the main candidates, trump and bush here, are making it too much about themselves? >> well, look, i think chris christie is looking for any angle to get back i

. >>> i want to bring in bob beckel, katrina peterson and cnn commentator buck sexton. good to have you in the 11:00 hour eastern on cnn. donald trump was just on fox. listen to this. >> it was a little bit like wwe, the great vince mcmahon who was a terrific guy. and every question had to do with me. it was mr. trump said this. mr. trump. i think they said 46% of the questions had something like that. i thought it was a little bit unusual. >> what's your reaction, bob? >> he thought it was unusual they were going to ask a lot of questions about donald trump? donald trump has absolutely dominated the political arena for the republicans. of course they'll ask him a lot of questions. they could have asked him some tougher questions. i think the guy defies the law of political gravity. he gets away with this stuff. i don't think it's going to last forever. he's been able to wade through policy issues and not come up with a single policy. >> katrina, the day after the debate and the headlines weren't all about donald trump. were you surprised? >> no, i'm not surprised at al

that reminds me this is the 10th anniversary of katrina, and knowing that a huge disaster happens in the other counties constantly we're more than observing and engaged in those not just to help, but to take lessons learned and about rebuilding and recovery and things we have been associating ourselves with ever since katrina where mayor gavin newsome allows me and others to represent the city and we took the opportunity not only to bring lawn mowers to help certain areas, but took our time to stand in areas that were devastated and wondered how our city would prevent that from happening? and in those moments it wasn't just wishful thinking, but brought that opportunity back and that is what began a more solid resiliency plan and volunteers and people from both berkeley and harvard. that studied it from all over the country, if not the world, to see what san francisco and other places could do to anticipate better our expected challenges on both an earthquake, but also now more and more it can be the expected el nino, plus an earthquake, plus drought, plus anything else. and so this

katrina, thank you so much.ierson for us there in dallas where donald trump is expecting as many as 20,000 people in a packed stadium there. i want to bring back ryan lizza, jeffrey toob jeffrey tuben and michael. >> it seems like the trump campaign at this moment is about two things, one is his popularity is evidence of his popularity. i've never seen a candidate or surrogate talk about polls more than trump does. i mean, the idea that i'm popular because you can tell that i'm popular in the polls. that works for now, but i mean, if the polls turn around, it's hard to know what he'll talk about. the other thing is immigration, he wants to get rid of 12 million people somehow and make america great again. you know that because it's on his hat. so beyond make america great again and his poll numbers and immigration, it's just hard to know what this campaign is really about. >> it really has, ryan, kind of turned some of the conventional thinking on its head but when you look at some of the numbers that we're seei

and on august 28 and in researching where katrina o. in the pecking order of natural disasters that have hit the country, i started researching the hurricane of 1900 that hit galveston. at more than a galveston, all but wiped it off the map. it was a fascinating story and i think i'm into it more and more, i don't think a lot of people know how bad the folks in the gulf region have a pretty good idea, but the average person i don't knows. the more i research, the more deeply into what i got. i decided maybe i could make a buck out of this. i have limited skills as you probably see every morning. i heard a guy come in his name is bill hoagland is a wonderful author in his own right but is a marvelous researcher. as he delved into this and were shuttled me information, the more i became fascinated by this and this is a terrific story and represented a lot of this country at the turn-of-the-century. the can-do attitude and belief we were masters of our domain, that we could take anything and make it better. galveston 100 years earlier was

thank you. >> seth: this is so interesting that you're doing this katrina look-back. why do you think it is important to look back? and more importantly, what do you think -- what lessons have been learned, what lessons haven't been learned? >> we made mistakes there. and everyone wanted to make it political at the time. and i was there just sort of watching the world collapse around us. it seems to still feel the worst the thing that we messed up was not sending the buses. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> you've got a population in the lower ninth and beyond that relies exclusively on public transportation, and they didn't the send them buses. so, maybe we just begin there. >> seth: at the time were you aware that it was becoming too politicized too quickly. >> no. there was no way to know. we didn't have communications. there was no twitter. we were just sort of isolated on and watching as people come out help that didn't come. and then we spoke to a new york doctor, who our viewers will meet in this special, who had been there for weeks after and documented 20 to 30 people who

katrina, you say the outsiders have the inside advantage now. >> they do. and it's just so ironic how all this is happening at the same time. we have outsiders leading in all the polls, even the tea party primary poll. we can't find any elected officials gaping traction because the republican leadership only recognizes the whites and the flag. they're self-defeatists, tails between their legs and won't pretend to fight for america. that's why we're seeing these outsiders surge. >> and really the fight should have been in congress, shouldn't it? i haven't seen much by the leadership. it has been said by the mainstream media the president won just because he has the votes to sustain a veto but an overwhelming majority of congress opposes the deal but you wouldn't know it. >> i i'm sympathetic to the argument that a lot of people are supporting outsiders because they fail -- congress has failed. but keep in mind that ted cruz himself voted for the corker bill that led us to the situation we have now. i do think it's partly that a lot of people in congress have

trump hasn't disclosed more details as katrina said about his actual policies. what is he doing, why is he doing this now? why is he starting with taxes? >> well, i think the reality is we've seen him sort of roll out a couple plans like immigration for instance that launched his campaign but taxes really are in his wheelhouse. you can tell i've been traveling with him a lot. this is something he cares about and thinks about on a daily basis. all of a sudden, he'll be giving a stump speech and talk about tax inversions. donald trump is familiar with the tax code and dealt with this individually and with his various business enterprises. when you are a serious candidate for president and start rolling out policy, and you are the republican front runner, that invites more scrutiny and i think that's what he's getting now and it's not every expert that's coming out, it's not even every republican and economist coming out saying this is a great plan. i talked to republicans that aren't sure what donald trump was trying to accomplish even though following through wit

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katrina pearson, thank you for taking the time again. always good to talk to you. donald trump will be a guest of jake tapper on cnn's "state of the union," that is tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. >>> and i want to go now to some news from the democratic presidential hopeful. cnn's suzanne malveaux is in manchester for the democratic party state convention. hillary clinton spoke there a short time ago. what did we hear from her today? >> reporter: we really heard some new lines from her. obviously, this is a very supportive crowd. about 4,200 people, a lot of big bernie sanders fans as well. but what she really needed to do and she did it is excite this crowd. she's addressing young women, she's addressing independents and moderates. we heard her economic agenda, the need to increase the minimum wage, to create equality. but we also heard her very specifically going after the gop candidates and specifically donald trump, the front-runner saying, a couple of zingers here. one of them saying, it was time for donald trump to stop cherishing women and start