[applause] >> i know what people thought about after katrina treen ya, one of the silver linings that might be the kind of reform of education in new orleans. i know you covered that in the book. what do you feel the state of education in new orleans is at this point? you know, years later? >> uh-huh. >> you know, there's no easy answer to that, and i feel people who made what happened here a complete positive and others make it a complete negative feeling the truth is in between that, and it's much more complicated. i feel there's a tremendous amount of educators working really hard in the schools, and just a human amount of progress that's been made, and a lot of families that feel like schools are more sort of stable places, focused on preparing their kids for college, but that said, i think there's a lot of lingering challenges. i think that kids who are the most challenging whether or not because they have special needs or a history of behavioral issues in the schools, or are coming out of alternative settings or incarceration, are still falling through the crasck in a l o cas n