we are joined now by katrina vanden heuvel, editor and publisher of "the nation," america's oldest weeklyine. again, "the nation" is celebrating its 150th anniversary with a quintuple-length, blockbuster edition of the magazine. welcome. happy birthday. katrina: thank you, amy. this is daunting, and it is something to survive, if you think, three centuries. we were founded in this great city by abolitionists committed to and -- to end slavery, but also eric writes about the contested meaning of freedom, and the founders believed in it as a universal birthright, but boy, has it been contested, and we can see it is still a battle. the words you read from the new deal era, think about how resonant those are -- may we save the republic from despair. it is those echoes, the fact that history remains present alive. this is about the past, present and future, and another 150 years is what we are committed to. juan: in an age where a magazine is lucky to survive 10 years, or counts themselves among the big ones if it survives 20 or 30 how has "the nation --"the nation" managed to survive for 150

. >> rose: we conclude with katrina vanden heuvel editor of the nation magazine looking back 100 years. >> in that context there are a lot of causes waiting to be won and i'm also excited charlie i think it's an eruption it's a moment of, it's a movement moment and the nation over these years has been reporter of movements and the change the deep transformational change movements can bring. whether it's 400000 people in the street, the climate march, whether it's the immigrant rights movement, whether it's fast food workers. you know, the student death strikes. these are movements we are in touch with. >> we conclude with john elderfield and peter galassi about the paintings in the studio. >> take on the art of the past and in the end, there's a great moment in the past which is probably never going to be surpassed. they really are things which people have to work against and learn from and you know. but it will never succeed if they simply try and repeat. so outcomes continue to change. >> rose: politics for the race of the presidency 2015 the history of the nation's magazine and pain

katrina vanden heuvel has been the editor for 20 years. she started as an intern. am pleased to have her back. what has it meant to you go -- what has it meant to you? katrina: "the nation" was where i learned about journalism. where i learned about america. where i learned the boot camp. it was a school. it is what you don't learn in university. you don't learn about it in school but it was a sense of coming in that 19 years old, and there was christopher hitchens from london and in exchange, kai bird, christopher came to the office. it was a lot of whirling discussion and argument. it was a place where you learned about debate. civil, uncivil. you learned about dissent and rebellion. it was a space, a physical space for freethinkers and dissenters. then the pages where it's built over an edited. it was a great school. but it was a fun, exciting literary political place. you talked about civil rights, corporate power. it has a great literary tradition, which one was steeped in with bessie dakota. taking on norman mailer. james baldwin, hannah arendt. what you learn

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