now i heard katty kay's name and i know katty kay said we didn't have a plan. there is a plan. any number of options and ways to augment our efforts on isil. it's not as easy as some people thought some parts of it might be. there's a lot happening. >> secretary kerry can i ask you what the plan is on barrel bombs. everybody agrees it's a priority. now that the russians are involved in the way they are is there anything that the united states can do to put pressure on putin to put pressure on assad as part of this new plan -- >> absolutely. >> -- to stop the barrel bombing >> you're right on target. i talked with lavrov about it and the iranians about it. they are in possession in exchange for what we might do they might decide to keep assad from dropping barrel bombs. i heard richard earlier talking about efforts of a cease-fire. that's part of the u.n. effort. we would love to see that happen. frankly, those localized efforts take a long time and don't deal with the larger issue of isil and the question of what you'll do to really have a solution here. we have to save syria.

staggering, breath-taking numbers, katty kay.barrassment. it's costing the lives of our vets. >> insult. >> we're asking them to go and fight and have been doing so since 2011. in incredibly dangerous wars. and then we're not doing them the courtesy when they return of giving them an appointment to try to get in to the system. >> think of the headlines, betwegene, that have been written through the years about the deaths in vietnam, the protests because of the deaths. 50,000, 55,000 deaths in vietnam. korea, about the same. all the stories about the deaths in iraq. about 5,000. the deaths in afghanistan. almost 2500. all those stories, all those headlines, all those pictures, all of those protests, all those hearings, all of that outrage, and all of those deaths up, they don't come close to equaling the number of people who have died waiting to get into the system. >> it's -- it's unimaginable. how can this have happened? how can this have happened? >> how difficult can it be? >> if you're not going to let people into it. it's ju

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