but this was rejected by the super majority. >> katty kay. >> and the provisions that are in the billt to be clear and to lay it out for everybody else, would it mean that no one could cross into indiana any more to have abortions, you've had the right protected in kansas, is that going to be the nearest place that indiana women could go to, to get their abortions? >> no, illinois is really the closest state. but again, instead of focusing so much on being so divisive about this issue, we could have legislation to make birth control much more accessible to women and that would significantly decrease abortion. it has in other states like north carolina, south carolina. they have passed legislation that women could go to a pharmacy and be prescribed and dispensed safe birth control. i've offered this for four years. this would significantly decrease abortions yet the republicans continue to reject this. that doesn't make sense. that is how you decrease abortion. >> and what is the situation with medical abortions now in indiana. some doctors in states that are banning abortion procedure

katty kay is still with us. of history at tulane university, walter isaacson. and the host of msnbc's "politics nation" and president of the national action network, reverend al sharpton joins us this morning. so after more than a year of stops and starts, democrats have passed a reconciliation package that includes a bulk of their priorities, on climate, health care, and taxes. it passed with no republican support and a tie-breaking vote from vice president kamala harris. the final draft of the bill, the inflation reduction act, would invest more than $300 billion in climate reform. the largest in american history. the bill allows medicare to negotiate drug prices for the first time, cutting prescription drug prices for americans 65 and older. it also adds a new 15% minimum tax on large corporation. the inflation reduction act now heads to the house, where lawmakers will return from the august recess on friday to vote on the bill. joe, break it down for us. number one, this success for president biden, what it

and is katty kay here -- fantastic. i thought i was talking to a wall. so, katty, the doj needs to be transparent. this is a historic moment when you're going to a former president. we don't need to be in the dark. like last night, i'm reading through the latest "the new york times" article trying to read between the lines. trying to figure out who was leaking what. trying to figure out what they really had on donald trump. two things can be true at one time. donald trump, they -- they could have probable cause with donald trump and the doj as walter isaacson said needs to be transparent. we still really don't know what's going on here. >> yeah. we live in an age of crazy conspiracy theories. and crazy conspiracy theories thrive in darkness when there is not transparency. this is a huge step that caused an uproar. much of it predictable. we knew the trump base was going to fly off the handle when this happened but it's very quickly leading to threats of violence and things that are dangerous to the american public. one way -- i'm not saying all the way --

katty kay, look what happened in kansas. a red state where people came out, including republicans, by the way, and said, no, we're not going to strike this out of the constitution, that there is a right to an abortion. we may believe that shouldn't be abortion, and that's our right to believe that, but it shouldn't come down from the state in that way. so i guess the question is, are republicans and the more extreme ones, talking about things like joe laid out in those cases, are they overplaying their hand here? they got the grass ring, roe versus wade was overturned by the supreme court, but some of these things, some of the cases are objectively extreme, no matter your belief on abortion. >> one in four american women had abortions, and that means quite a lot of men know women who had one. there is probably more sympathy for people who had them, an understanding of why women have abortions and the very difficult circumstances that lead to abortions than one might expect around the country. then you have, on top of that, c

special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. and pulitzer prize-winning columnist at "the washington post," eugene robinson. good to have you both with us this morning. i will say, just backing up on the problem for republicans, joe, donald trump, if we don't get ahead of this, nobody needs to get ahead of this. of course, there are huge questions of national security perhaps being put at risk by whatever these documents are that were in mar-a-lago. they certainly were labeled in a way that seems that national security could have been put at risk. but having them at all, donald trump does not deny he has them. >> yup. >> donald trump was working with the national archives and trying to give some back, but maybe stuffed 184 random pages in 15 different boxes, maybe to muddle it, maybe they were just there. maybe he didn't know about it. doubt it. he had them. and if you stay right there, you have to ask the question, and i think lindsey graham and other republicans who are sitting there, still shilling for trump, know in the back

jonathan lemire is with us, katty kay. and jonathan, you talk about this the way you do every day, the white house is taking great pains from distancing itself from the raid at mar-a-lago. don't want to talk about it. don't want to talk about donald trump in 2020 largely because they want to be seen as having their heads down and doing work. that's the example on the front page of all of the papers, the president signing the huge piece of legislation yesterday. >> an extraordinary amount of work capping off what has been a remarkable run for the president and his party. yes, some of this is bipartisan, the infrastructure bill of a year ago. this yesterday, these are democratic priorities and have been for a very long time. it was finally this president with this congress that got it done. i'm mused, with the look biden gave to senator manchin. he almost said, joe, i never had a doubt. we know manchin, of course, is a late arrival to this bill. and it got done. that's why democrats feel pretty good about the midterms all of

special correspondent for bbc news, the great katty kay. katty, taking broadside shots a moment ago at your home country and the technology there. i was deeply concerned by that. >> i know. i was just hoping no one was listening back home. >> i think you're okay. we'll redeem ourselves here. >> okay. >> let's start with the new nbc news national poll which shows 57% of americans believe the investigations into donald trump should continue. 40% say they should stop. when it comes to top issues facing the country, threats to democracy have overtaken the cost of living. the poll also shows a dissatisfied electorate. tracking with other numbers we've seen for months now. 74% of americans say the country is headed in the wrong direction. a record 58% believe america's best days are behind it. and 68% believe the united states currently is in a recession. republicans have a slight 2-point edge when it comes to which party voters want to control congress, though that's in the margin of error. a tie game there. democrats have significantly closed th

let's bring in katty kay, msnbc contributor, and former maryland congresswoman donna edwards. is redacted version of an affidavit? >> look, i mean, trump has a long history of disrespecting the u.s. intelligence agencies. you played there, you know, some of the most extraordinary clips, but you can go right back in the relationship to 2017 when jim clapper and the other heads of the intelligence agencies had to go up and tell him that russia had got involved in his election campaign, the fact that it was a cia whistle-blower that led to the first impeachment of donald trump, there's so much bad blood there. i don't -- there is no evidence, and you could speculate why did he take these documents? you were just doing that for the last few minutes. i don't think there's any evidence that he took them to get back at u.s. intelligence, but he certainly saw u.s. intelligence as part of the deep state out to get him. he liked their intelligence when he thought it was useful to him and when it helped him with his narrative. you were saying, he wanted intelligence on angela merkel. it s

correspondent katty kay and law professor melissa murray. m melissa, i go to you first. everyone has the right to be represented, including with all kinds of arguments at least out of court they could say a lot. but walk us through. did we just hear a legitimate argument from that trump lawyer or is that more of a general, hey, this could be messy, take that for what you will argument. >> it's hard to say. i think she was speaking as a reporter or commentator at that point, not necessarily on behalf of of any particular client, but you're right. under the sixth amendment all individuals who are involved in a criminal investigation or defendants in a criminal investigation or prosecution are entitled to a vigorous defense. the difficulty before the former president is he has a reputation for not paying his lawyers. that make it is very hard to retain counsel. but more importantly, as his legal exposure expands, i think there are a lot of questions among those in the professional community about whether this is a gamble worth taking. we already saw that there were lawyers

jake sherman, katty kay, thank you for starting us off, mike murphy with the flag and his funny shoesme back. ignoring what happened at the ballot box last week, indiana republicans decided to go ahead on an historic attack on women's reproductive act, signing into law a near-total ban on abortion since the supreme court overturned roe. states, man, moving so far to the right it's too extreme even for some gop lawmakers. how much pro-choice energy can the democrats tap into for these upcoming midterms? plus, one of donald trump's many chiefs of staff recounting the story of how donald trump openly complained that he wanted his generals to pledge loyalty to him like the generals of nazi germany did with adolf hitler. trump and his generals are the first news-making excerpt of the new blockbuster book and one of the authors coming up on that topic. >> later in the show the 2020 election is on the ballot and tomorrow's primary race in the state of wisconsin. candidates there having to decide if they need to embrace the big lie and all those stories and more when "deadline: white house" c

. >>> with us this morning, correspondent for bbc news, katty kay.g columnist and associate editor of "the washington post," gene robinson. and msnbc contributor mike barnicle. we have new reporting on what sparked the search at mar-a-lago. two weeks ago, the government recovered more than 300 documents marked as classified from donald trump so far. the first batch returned in january included more than 150 classified documents, but there were more. according to the "times," quote, the number ignited intense concern at the justice department and helped to trigger the criminal investigation that led fbi agents to swoop into mar-a-lago this month, seeking to recover more. a number of people briefed on the matter telling the "times," the former president personally went through 15 boxes beforehand before handing them over in january. quote, the highly sensitive nature of some of the material in the boxes prompted archive officials to refer the matter to the justice department which, within months, convened a grand jury investigation. the government retr

. >> steve, let's bring in nbc news special correspondent katty kay, and columnist for "washington post," eugene robinson. and the host of "way too early" white house reporter and politico, jonathan lemire. katty, talk to me about kansas. >> what happened in kansas is interesting. as steve pointed out you have districts that have become heavily republican. we can talk about the suburbs later but the rural districts that are heavily republican, where the margin of the votes of yes do not correlate with donald trump's election results of 2022. we have republican -- i don't know if they're republican women or more centrist republican men and women. and we have not only the story that was raised about young girls being raped and implications of that. you have horror stories of doctors, of women who have had miscarriages and couldn't get a d&c to potentially save their life and health or make them wait in agony to get a procedure because of supreme court ruling and the chaos it's thrown up around the state. so, the ruling has had far more radical implications that i think people on the day o

the bbc katty kay is still with us for the hour. and it is a busy one.n in just an hour. and that has now headed east. we'll have the latest. also this hour, with back to school season in full swing, districts across the country facing major teachers shortages. now in ohio, teachers in the largest district are going on strike for the first time in 50 years. plus today is primary day across the country. democrats in new york trying to decide which long time member of congress will return to d.c. and which will be sent home. while in florida, the big question is who will take on ron desantis. steve kornacki will join us at the big board. plus beto o'rourke will be our guest. as that state prepares to implement one of the nation's toughest abortion restrictions. but we want to begin this hour with former president trump's new report that he held on to more than 300 classified documents after leaving the white house. citing sources briefed on the matter, "the new york times" is reporting this morning half of those documents were recovered in january by the n