. ♪ ♪ >> trace: back with the nightcap crew, alexandria hoff, camryn kinsey, katie zacharia, luke ballublicans implode. what do you think, is this an effective strategy? alexandria hoff, welcome to the nightcap. your maiden voyage. what do you think? >> i researched possums too much for this. my first thought was that possums play dead when they feel threatened so i think that negates part of his point but i think that democrats need to try something new. >> trace: chanley painter? >> i agree. i believe they are missing key opportunities for a true leader to emerge, countering the trump administration, and it's really -- instead of cowering or playing politics, that's not why we send them to washington. it's disappointing. >> trace: luke ball. >> the democrats have had quite the evolution of velocity -- philosophy. the jfk era it was what you can do for your country and now in the biden-harris era it's rollover and play possum. let's hope they keep the philosophy for a while. >> trace: let's rollover and play play dead for a while. jason rantz. >> i think this is really just james carv

the big balls here that katie is talking about, and most of them are in their early 20s. there's an exception i'm going to get to in a minute. i'm curious, though, kara, how well does even musk know these young men? do you think? >> i have no idea. i think there is no vetting whatsoever. as you can see, that's taking place. it took katie and the really great team. wired has done an astonishing job here. um, you know, i could make a joke. that's probably why he was hired for all this ridiculous nonsense and other nefarious things. but, you know, there's an expression in technology. it's not a it's a feature, not a bug. this this is what they do. they are careless. i don't believe any bit of them when they say they vetted these people and they just there are people that will listen to whatever elon says and do whatever he wants and thinks. it's a ball to do this. and very funny. and so they're willing to do things, say adults wouldn't be willing to do or cross lines that they wouldn't be. he wants these malleable, malleable young men in particular, in order to do this. and

. >> well, with us now to discuss this is political editor of the spectator, katy balls. o see you this morning katy. and tell us about this plan by angela rayner. then to create a council on islamophobia. >> so this goes back to an all party parliamentary group definition of islamophobia, which long before the labour party was in government, they adopted. and but the question is, will the government now adopt this definition? and if so, what are the ramifications? and angela rayner has this council they're going to consult on it. dominic grieve, the former tory mp, he is going to be one of the figures involved apparently. and i think where the debate is, is if you go back to the definition from this all party parliamentary group, at the time, there were warnings that the definition was far too broad and it would go beyond just stopping muslim hate speech and trying to clamp down on this, and trying to clamp down on this, and could actually kerb freedom of speech and become a de facto blasphemy law that therefore you couldn't really criticise religion or the muslim faith,

political editor editor of the spectator, katy balls, who joins us in the studio now. good to see you, katy. what do you make of this? it's been described as an australian style youth mobility scheme. >> well, i think what's interesting is you've had the uk government up until now really ruling this out as an idea. and so you've had the talk of the big eu reset. we know that keir starmer wants closer relations with the eu. the question has always been what is the uk government willing to give up in return to get rid of various trade barriers, to have that closer relationship? and youth mobility has been something all the diplomats in eu capitals talk about. but number 10 have been pretty squeamish about it because they worry it sounds a bit like freedom of movement, and therefore it could play pretty badly to voters and there could be a backlash. so i think it's seen as the most sensitive thing they could give up to get something. and of course, this is an on the record sense that they're going to do it. but i think it does show that there's a realisation that they are